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Re: makeinfo should quote 'like this' instead of `like this'


From: Karl Berry
Subject: Re: makeinfo should quote 'like this' instead of `like this'
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:20:42 -0800

    In HTML, those quotes are “ and ” in 
    the default case.  Is it ok?  

Not [lr]squo?  Always been traditional to use single quotes for @file
etc.

    become U+2018 and U+2019 if enable-encoding is set and 
    @documentlanguage utf-8 is set too (as discussed recently).

Yes, fine.  But the question at hand is about the info/plaintext output
for @file when enable-encoding is *not* set, and/or utf-8 is not
specified,.  Up till now, makeinfo in all its forms has output `foo'.
But I guess we have to now change to 'foo'.

    Can do too, even though I don't really like that.  

I hate this whole move to undirected quotes, personally.
But I already lost that argument.

    So, should I proceed with ` becoming ' in ascii in info/Plaintext
    output?

I fear so.  I can't see any convincing reason for us to refuse.

    Currently, in html, ' is changed to ’ and ` to ‘ except if
    in @code/@example.  I think that it should be kept that way.  

I agree.  Inside @code/@example is different.
And that output is already controllable with @codequote*, so fine.

    For now, ' and ` are not transformed to unicode points, like --- --
    `` '' are in text/plaintext/info if enable-encoding is set and
    @documentlanguage utf-8 is set too.  They are in DocBook, to U+2019
    and U+2018.  That would seem rather logical to also transform ' and
    ` to unicode U+2019 and U+2018 in that case too.

I agree.

The XML output should do those transformations too?

Thanks,
k




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