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Re: TRAMP User Manual problems with Texinfo 5.0


From: Patrice Dumas
Subject: Re: TRAMP User Manual problems with Texinfo 5.0
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:42:52 +0100
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-12-10)

On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 10:38:39PM +0200, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> 
> But since pre-v5 makeinfo repeatedly expanded text until there was
> nothing left to expand, the @c and everything after it, including the
> newline, would then disappear without a trace.

I think that the main difference lies elsewhere.  My understanding is
that, faced with something like


@heading aaa @amacro{lksfsdf, fsdsfdsd}

makeinfo in C takes the whole line, 
  aaa @amacro{lksfsdf, fsdsfdsd}
converts it in a new context, and, then outputs it.



For instance, with

  @macro ggg{}
  aaaaaaaa hhhhh
  
  aaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaa
  ggggggggg ggggggg gggggggg gggggggggg ggggggggggg
  jjjjj jjjjjjjJJjjjjjj jjjjjjj jjjjjjjjjjjj
  gggggg ggggggggggg ggggggggggggggggg
  bbbbbbb bbbbbb bbbbbbbbbb
  @end macro

  @node Top

  @heading jj @ggg{}

The whole @ggg expansion is considered to be the @heading argument.
This is quite different from the implementation now, as now user defined
macros are textually expanded, such that the above, with texi2any is
exactly the same as

  @node Top

  @heading jj aaaaaaaa hhhhh

  aaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaa
  ggggggggg ggggggg gggggggg gggggggggg ggggggggggg
  jjjjj jjjjjjjJJjjjjjj jjjjjjj jjjjjjjjjjjj
  gggggg ggggggggggg ggggggggggggggggg
  aaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaa


I think that the new implementation is better, because it is more
consistent. With the makeinfo in C implementation it is not possible to
write some texinfo code that will give the same result as the Texinfo
code with macro expansions.

However, maybe it would deserve something in the NEWS file?

-- 
Pat



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