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Re: [11/27] Short presentation about translating the Emacs manuals at th

From: Jean-Christophe Helary
Subject: Re: [11/27] Short presentation about translating the Emacs manuals at the coming EmacsConf
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 00:29:50 +0900

> On Nov 28, 2021, at 20:15, Gavin Smith <gavinsmith0123@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 08:59:30AM +0900, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote:
>> Good morning everybody,
>> I’ll be making a shot presentation about translating the Emacs manuals in 
>> OmegaT next Saturday. The presentation is 9 min long. There will also be a 
>> short Q&A. Of course the Texinfo format is what I discuss most, and how to 
>> handle it gracefully in OmegaT.
>> https://emacsconf.org/2021/talks/omegat/
>> It will be in broken English, with English/French/Japanese captions :-)
> I see there is a video up on that page with your presentation.

The video was linked to after the presentation was broadcast.

> I haven't looked into it recently but I believe the help2man project
> did a good job with getting their manual translated.  They put parts
> of the manual in a POT file
> http://translationproject.org/domain/help2man-texi.html
> So I have help2man manuals on my system in at least Spanish, Brazillian
> Portuguese, French, Polish, German, Ukrainian and Chinese.  I'm not aware
> of any other manual being translated so widely.  I guess their approach
> could be copied by Emacs and others, if it's not being done already.  I
> don't know what exactly they do or how that would work with OmegaT, but
> I definitely agree that smoothing workflows for translators is a very
> good idea.

As I suggest in the video, OmegaT is a tool for professional translators, so 
unless you want to work on your own on a big piece of documentation, for ex, if 
you just want to update a few strings in the latest version of your favourite 
software, then just working from the PO file should be enough (although I 
always work in OmegaT projects even for super small PO jobs).

I mention clumsy web interfaces in the presentation and that’s really what it 
is about: either you use a web-based collaborative tool for low-level 
commitment, or you (eventually) use pro-tools, just like some people use emacs 
even for basic writing tasks.

What I showed was a PO based demonstration. As long as people in a team use PO, 
whatever tool is used to translate the thing, the result will be a PO file and 
things will work.

If OmegaT had a native Texinfo filter (which would be a good thing too), that 
would be a bit more difficult to merge different processes, but not impossible.

Jean-Christophe Helary @brandelune

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