Re: [GNU/consensus] Social Resilience in Online Communities: The Autopsy of Friendster

[hellekin (GNU Consensus)]

On 03/03/2013 08:45 PM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
> 
> Yes, it's unfortunate that facebook will resort to these tactics.
>
*** I cannot find it unfortunate, but rather a normal consequence of
their position. Facebook was never made to empower communities, but to
exploit the social graph, and the contempt of Zuckerberg for his users
is not a secret.

> They have probably have the best adoption and interoperable technology
> in the world, but they dont always use it for good.
>
*** I fear I won't ever be able to agree with you on that topic. I agree
with Jacob Appelbaum and Dmitry Kleiner that Facebook, and most
centralized social networking platforms, that happen to be commercial,
have surveillance as the foundation of their business model.

> (well elgg had a good try imho, but 2 devs can only do so much),
> and LAMP has become quite unfashionable these days, so the gap has got
> wider.
> 
*** Yes, working with small teams has its drawbacks. But we're trying
with Lorea to upscale our reach to developers. I agree that the
technology is not the best, but as far as PHP is concerned, I think Elgg
offers the best potential for success. Moreover, n-1 benefits from a
strong support base, where inhabitants--as we call "users" have an
exceptional resilience on the network's glitches and flow in for ethical
reasons.

> Given that there are no alternatives people sort of feel trapped in
> facebook, but because all their friends are there, it's hard to leave...
>
*** They are. My take is that fixing the federation for good, and
providing easy access to the code, by packaging it GNU-style, and
shipping it to the major GNU/Linux distros, can provide a space for more
contributions, and better interoperability with other projects. That
position is half of what prompted me to start the GNU/consensus project.
The other half is that I believe there is a path from the current
situation to a fully peer-to-peer solution, given that we can cooperate
over time to ensure seamless convergence.

My mantra for this: localhost, where your social networking belongs.

==
hk

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