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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] TI open source tools


From: Philip Balister
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] TI open source tools
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:25:19 -0700

On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Gregory Maxwell <address@hidden> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 9:15 AM, Bob McGwier <address@hidden> wrote:
>> In the squeaky wheel gets the grease category,  I have two things.  The
>> story about the removal of the open source Linux tools.  It was a mistake
>> and caused by disorganized placement of tools in their directory structure.
>> The second thing is I have been given personal assurances from the people in
>> charge that TI is UTTERLY committed to open source tools.   They are
>> providing me with an ftp site for the tools and are reconstituting the web
>> site as quickly as possible.
>
>
> TI does not have open source tools for their DSPs, it would appear you
> are again mistaken.  They have proprietary tools available at no cost
> for open source developers to build software for their products.
>
> Regardless of their statements to you, the license agreement reads
> otherwise and they could withdraw the tools at any time. If they like
> to demonstrate the kind of "utter" commitment that you're crediting
> them above then they could release their DSP toolchain  software under
> an open source license, or at least enter into a binding legal
> agreement the prevents the withdraw of the tools.
>
> In any case, I'm glad to hear that your initial claim was mistaken and
> that they hadn't done such a foolish thing today.  Now you can
> continue your uncompensated labour helping them sell their products.
> :)

We are working on changing the world one day at a time.

I'd love to see someone take this work:

http://mailman.tu-chemnitz.de/pipermail/gcc-c6x/2007-March/000031.html

and complete it, then write an open source dsp bios like system.

Until then working with TI to gain better access to DSP tools is the
easiest appraoch. Hopefully, we can start learning the ins and outs of
DSP programming and build a knowledgable user community so we can code
around problems with licenses. (and for any TI guys listening, create
more demand for your silicon)

Philip

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