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From: Qurat-Ul-Ann Akbar
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Discuss-gnuradio Digest, Vol 169, Issue 13
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:14:13 -0600

Hi Martin,

Thanks for your response. Are benchmark_tx and benchmark_rx both deprecated ? And is there any example flowgraph which uses the ofdm_transmitter which I can use to send the data. I have a CS background and I do not know much about the signal processing at PHY layer in great detail. 

Best,
Annie

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: [USRP-users] Deadline extended: FOSDEM 2017: SDR Track
      CfP (Martin Braun)
   2. Re: Difference between examples/ofdm/benchmark_tx.py and
      examples/ofdm/tx_ofdm.py (Martin Braun)
   3. RFNoC blocks in GRC (Vishwesh Rege)
   4. reading uhd_rx_cfile data (Nikita Airee)
   5. Re: RFNoC blocks in GRC (Nicolas Cuervo)
   6. Re: RFNoC blocks in GRC (Vishwesh Rege)
   7. Re: RFNoC blocks in GRC (Nicolas Cuervo)
   8. Re: RFNoC blocks in GRC (Vishwesh Rege)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 11:29:37 -0800
From: Martin Braun <address@hidden>
To: "address@hidden" <address@hidden>,
        "'address@hidden'" <address@hidden>,
        address@hidden
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] [USRP-users] Deadline extended: FOSDEM
        2017: SDR Track CfP
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Apologies for the double-post, but I completely forgot to give the new
dates: We have extended the CfP by one week, until December 16th.
However, we are alrady rating prior submissions, so early submitters get
a preference. There are still some slots available though!

Cheers,
Martin


On 12/10/2016 11:25 AM, Martin Braun via USRP-users wrote:
> Dear friends and fans of software defined radio,
>
> the SDR track at next year's FOSDEM still has some slots left! We
> already have a good mix of topics, but we still have some time for YOUR
> presentation!
>
> If you have anything related to field of free software radio, please
> head to:
>
> https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM17
>
> and submit your short abstract! We're looking very much forward to your
> submission.
>
> For the committee,
>
> Martin Braun
>
> On 10/18/2016 03:27 PM, Martin Braun wrote:
>> Dear friends and fans of software defined radio,
>>
>> next year's FOSDEM (the free and open source developer's meeting in
>> Brussels, Europe) will, once again, feature a  track on Software Defined
>> Radio.
>> Therefore, we invite developers and users from the free software radio
>> community to join us for this track and present your talks or demos.
>>
>> Software Radio has become an important tool to allow anyone access the
>> EM spectrum. Using free software radio libraries and applications and
>> cheap  hardware, anyone can now start hacking on wireless
>> communications, remote sensing, radar or other applications. At FOSDEM,
>> we hope to network all these projects and improve collaboration, bring
>> new ideas forward and get more people involved.
>>
>> The track's web site resides at:
>> http://gnuradio.org/redmine/projects/gnuradio/wiki/FOSDEM
>>
>> Here, we will publish updates and announcements. The final schedule will
>> be available through Pentabarf and the official FOSDEM website.
>>
>> ** Submit your presentations
>>
>> To suggest a talk, go to https://penta.fosdem.org/submission/FOSDEM16
>> and follow the instructions (you need an account, but can use your
>> account from last year if you have one). You need to create an 'Event';
>> make sure it's in the Software Defined Radio track! Lengths aren't
>> fixed, but give a realistic estimate and please don't exceed 30 minutes
>> unless you have something special planned (in that case, contact one of
>> us). Also, don't forget to include time for Q&A.
>>
>> You aren't limited to slide presentations, of course. Be creative.
>> However, FOSDEM is an open source conference, therefore we ask you to
>> stay clear of marketing presentations. Of course, we like nitty-gritty
>> technical stuff.
>>
>> Here's a list of topics that will most likely be included:
>> - SDR Frameworks + Tools
>> - Wireless security
>> - Radio hardware
>> - Telecommunications
>> - Random fun wireless hacks
>>
>> We will reserve time for interactiveness, it won't all be talks.
>>
>> ** Important Dates
>>
>> FOSDEM is February 4th and 5th, 2017.
>>
>> * December 9th 2016: Submission Deadline
>> * January 2nd 2017: Announcement of final schedule
>> * February 4th 2017: SDR Track (Saturday)
>>
>> These dates are not set in stone. However, the least years we were
>> always full to the brim with presentations, so if you want to present,
>> please make sure to submit your abstracts soon!
>>
>> ** Steering Committee
>>
>> The track committee consists of:
>> * Phil "catvideos" Balister (OpenEmbedded / OpenSDR)
>> * Martin "mbr0wn" Braun (GNU Radio)
>> * Sylvain "tnt" Munaut (OsmoCom)
>>
>> Hope to hear from you soon! And please forward this announcement.
>>
>> Martin
>>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 11:31:07 -0800
From: Martin Braun <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Difference between
        examples/ofdm/benchmark_tx.py and examples/ofdm/tx_ofdm.py
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You can basically ignore benchmark_tx.py, it's deprecated, will be
removed soon and uses old APIs.

However, in an nutshell, benchmark_tx.py is a transmitter application,
whereas tx_ofdm.grc is a GRC flowgraph that demonstrates the internals
of the OFDM transmitter.

Cheers,
Martin

On 12/09/2016 11:37 AM, Qurat-Ul-Ann Akbar wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am new to GNU Radio and I want to use OFDM to send signals at
> frequency of around 2.4 GHz using USRP N210 with daughter board RFX2400.
> I do not really understand the difference between benchmark_tx.py and
> tx_ofdm.py. I know that benchmark runs with the USRP as well because it
> has an option to transmit through USRP and tx_ofdm doesn't have a
> uhd_block. But if I add the uhd_block as a sink in tx_ofdm.grc what is
> the difference then between the two files ? And which one should I use ?
>
> Thank you,
> Annie
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 23:16:39 -0800
From: Vishwesh Rege <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
Subject: [Discuss-gnuradio] RFNoC blocks in GRC
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Hi,

I'm unable to view RFNoC blocks in gnuradio-companion (in the block list on
the right side). Sometimes I can view them, under (unspecified) ? uhd ?
rfnoc but sometimes I can't for some reason. I have sourced
rfnoc/setup_env.sh which I believe had solved the problem previously. Does
anyone know the solution?

Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks.

Vishwesh
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 14:44:47 +0530
From: Nikita Airee <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
Subject: [Discuss-gnuradio] reading uhd_rx_cfile data
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Hello everyone!

I am tryning to capure the IQ samples over the air to determine the noise
floor at the given frequency.

However, I have not been able to read the files uhd_rx_cfile creates. Is
there a special utility/program in gnuradio or otherwise that I could use
to read this data and separate the I and Q samples?

Bests,
Nikita
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 10:26:54 +0100
From: Nicolas Cuervo <address@hidden>
To: Vishwesh Rege <address@hidden>
Cc: GNURadio Discussion List <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] RFNoC blocks in GRC
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Hello Vishwesh,

I believe that in this case it is only a matter of where the blocks are
installed, and where grc is looking for them. When you install OOT modules
(gr-ettus is itself an OOT module for RFNoC) it also has an installation
path, where GRC is going to be looking for the blocks that are available,
and the ones that are found are going to be listed there. I believe, from
what you wrote in your email, that you are using PyBOMBS, and the PyBOMBS
environment is really helpful in cases lake this one. Before setting up the
environment it would be expected that the blocks are not found, as the
enviromental variables that describe their location haven't been set. By
sourcing the env, all the things that where installed with PyBOMBS are
described with the environmental variables, and the the RFNoC blocks can be
found.

That is, you have to source your setup_env.sh every time that you want to
use something from that given prefix. The reason why this is not done
automatically (which is also the reason why it is not recommended to do
so), is because you can set up multiple prefixes, each with a completely
different configuration, which you can pull just by sourcing the
setup_env.sh file.

I hope this answers your question. Please let us know if further
clarification is required.

Cheers,
-N

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Vishwesh Rege <address@hidden> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm unable to view RFNoC blocks in gnuradio-companion (in the block list
> on the right side). Sometimes I can view them, under (unspecified) ? uhd ?
> rfnoc but sometimes I can't for some reason. I have sourced
> rfnoc/setup_env.sh which I believe had solved the problem previously. Does
> anyone know the solution?
>
> Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks.
>
> Vishwesh
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Discuss-gnuradio mailing list
> address@hidden
> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 01:44:31 -0800
From: Vishwesh Rege <address@hidden>
To: Nicolas Cuervo <address@hidden>
Cc: GNURadio Discussion List <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] RFNoC blocks in GRC
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Hi,

I understand but sourcing the setup_env.sh file isn't working for me
unfortunately at this time. Previously on a different machine this was what
seemed to have solved the issue.
I did use PyBOMBS for installation, this is the exact sequence of commands:
sudo pip install PyBOMBS
pybombs recipes add gr-recipes git+https://github.com/
gnuradio/gr-recipes.git
pybombs recipes add ettus git+https://github.com/
EttusResearch/ettus-pybombs.git
pybombs prefix init ~/rfnoc -R rfnoc
source ~/rfnoc/setup_env.sh

and gnuradio using apt-get install...

Thanks,
Vishwesh



On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 1:26 AM, Nicolas Cuervo <address@hidden>
wrote:

> Hello Vishwesh,
>
> I believe that in this case it is only a matter of where the blocks are
> installed, and where grc is looking for them. When you install OOT modules
> (gr-ettus is itself an OOT module for RFNoC) it also has an installation
> path, where GRC is going to be looking for the blocks that are available,
> and the ones that are found are going to be listed there. I believe, from
> what you wrote in your email, that you are using PyBOMBS, and the PyBOMBS
> environment is really helpful in cases lake this one. Before setting up the
> environment it would be expected that the blocks are not found, as the
> enviromental variables that describe their location haven't been set. By
> sourcing the env, all the things that where installed with PyBOMBS are
> described with the environmental variables, and the the RFNoC blocks can be
> found.
>
> That is, you have to source your setup_env.sh every time that you want to
> use something from that given prefix. The reason why this is not done
> automatically (which is also the reason why it is not recommended to do
> so), is because you can set up multiple prefixes, each with a completely
> different configuration, which you can pull just by sourcing the
> setup_env.sh file.
>
> I hope this answers your question. Please let us know if further
> clarification is required.
>
> Cheers,
> -N
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Vishwesh Rege <address@hidden>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm unable to view RFNoC blocks in gnuradio-companion (in the block list
>> on the right side). Sometimes I can view them, under (unspecified) ? uhd ?
>> rfnoc but sometimes I can't for some reason. I have sourced
>> rfnoc/setup_env.sh which I believe had solved the problem previously. Does
>> anyone know the solution?
>>
>> Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks.
>>
>> Vishwesh
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Discuss-gnuradio mailing list
>> address@hidden
>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
>>
>>
>


--
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+1 (858) 729-4157 <(858)%20729-4157> | address@hidden |
https://sites.google.com/site/vishweshrege
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 11:04:12 +0100
From: Nicolas Cuervo <address@hidden>
To: Vishwesh Rege <address@hidden>
Cc: GNURadio Discussion List <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] RFNoC blocks in GRC
Message-ID:
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Hello Vishwesh,

that recipe installs gnuradio in your path too. I believe that if you run
grc from from that prefix, your blocks will be picked up. The gnuradio from
the prefix has the env_var GRC_BLOCKS_DIR setup so that it is included
within the PyBOMBS prefix.

On the other hand, when you open the GRC that you installed via apt-get, at
the top of your output, I would suspect that you get something like:

   Block paths:
       /usr/local/share/gnuradio/grc/blocks

(or something alike), which is a system location and the stuff that you
install and configure via PyBOMBS are not supposed to be installed there,
but only in the prefix. If that is so, you'd have to reconfigure your grc
to look for the path where your blocks are, or reconfigure your block
installation path to install at the location where gnuradio is looking for
them. Or use the grc that you installed with that recipe, which should just
work.

Is there a reason why you separately installed gnuradio from the package
manager? As I said, you could use all the resources from the rfnoc.lwr
recipe that you are using (which are UHD, GNURadio, gr-ettus and the fpga
repo)

Cheers,
- N

On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Vishwesh Rege <address@hidden> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I understand but sourcing the setup_env.sh file isn't working for me
> unfortunately at this time. Previously on a different machine this was what
> seemed to have solved the issue.
> I did use PyBOMBS for installation, this is the exact sequence of
> commands:
> sudo pip install PyBOMBS
> pybombs recipes add gr-recipes git+https://github.com/gnuradi
> o/gr-recipes.git
> pybombs recipes add ettus git+https://github.com/EttusRe
> search/ettus-pybombs.git
> pybombs prefix init ~/rfnoc -R rfnoc
> source ~/rfnoc/setup_env.sh
>
> and gnuradio using apt-get install...
>
> Thanks,
> Vishwesh
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 1:26 AM, Nicolas Cuervo <address@hidden>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Vishwesh,
>>
>> I believe that in this case it is only a matter of where the blocks are
>> installed, and where grc is looking for them. When you install OOT modules
>> (gr-ettus is itself an OOT module for RFNoC) it also has an installation
>> path, where GRC is going to be looking for the blocks that are available,
>> and the ones that are found are going to be listed there. I believe, from
>> what you wrote in your email, that you are using PyBOMBS, and the PyBOMBS
>> environment is really helpful in cases lake this one. Before setting up the
>> environment it would be expected that the blocks are not found, as the
>> enviromental variables that describe their location haven't been set. By
>> sourcing the env, all the things that where installed with PyBOMBS are
>> described with the environmental variables, and the the RFNoC blocks can be
>> found.
>>
>> That is, you have to source your setup_env.sh every time that you want to
>> use something from that given prefix. The reason why this is not done
>> automatically (which is also the reason why it is not recommended to do
>> so), is because you can set up multiple prefixes, each with a completely
>> different configuration, which you can pull just by sourcing the
>> setup_env.sh file.
>>
>> I hope this answers your question. Please let us know if further
>> clarification is required.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> -N
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Vishwesh Rege <address@hidden>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm unable to view RFNoC blocks in gnuradio-companion (in the block list
>>> on the right side). Sometimes I can view them, under (unspecified) ? uhd ?
>>> rfnoc but sometimes I can't for some reason. I have sourced
>>> rfnoc/setup_env.sh which I believe had solved the problem previously. Does
>>> anyone know the solution?
>>>
>>> Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Vishwesh
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Discuss-gnuradio mailing list
>>> address@hidden
>>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Vishwesh Rege
> +1 (858) 729-4157 <(858)%20729-4157> | address@hidden |
> https://sites.google.com/site/vishweshrege
>
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Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 02:42:42 -0800
From: Vishwesh Rege <address@hidden>
To: Nicolas Cuervo <address@hidden>
Cc: GNURadio Discussion List <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] RFNoC blocks in GRC
Message-ID:
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Hi,

Sorry but I don't know what you mean by "reconfigure your grc to look for
the path where your blocks are, or reconfigure your block installation path
to install at the location where gnuradio is looking for them. Or use the
grc that you installed with that recipe"... as in the steps to do that?

I installed gnuradio separately because gnuradio-companion wasn't running
(command not found error) when I tried to execute it from the command line.

Thanks,
Vishwesh



On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 2:04 AM, Nicolas Cuervo <address@hidden>
wrote:

> Hello Vishwesh,
>
> that recipe installs gnuradio in your path too. I believe that if you run
> grc from from that prefix, your blocks will be picked up. The gnuradio from
> the prefix has the env_var GRC_BLOCKS_DIR setup so that it is included
> within the PyBOMBS prefix.
>
> On the other hand, when you open the GRC that you installed via apt-get,
> at the top of your output, I would suspect that you get something like:
>
>    Block paths:
>        /usr/local/share/gnuradio/grc/blocks
>
> (or something alike), which is a system location and the stuff that you
> install and configure via PyBOMBS are not supposed to be installed there,
> but only in the prefix. If that is so, you'd have to reconfigure your grc
> to look for the path where your blocks are, or reconfigure your block
> installation path to install at the location where gnuradio is looking for
> them. Or use the grc that you installed with that recipe, which should just
> work.
>
> Is there a reason why you separately installed gnuradio from the package
> manager? As I said, you could use all the resources from the rfnoc.lwr
> recipe that you are using (which are UHD, GNURadio, gr-ettus and the fpga
> repo)
>
> Cheers,
> - N
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 10:44 AM, Vishwesh Rege <address@hidden>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I understand but sourcing the setup_env.sh file isn't working for me
>> unfortunately at this time. Previously on a different machine this was what
>> seemed to have solved the issue.
>> I did use PyBOMBS for installation, this is the exact sequence of
>> commands:
>> sudo pip install PyBOMBS
>> pybombs recipes add gr-recipes git+https://github.com/gnuradi
>> o/gr-recipes.git
>> pybombs recipes add ettus git+https://github.com/EttusRe
>> search/ettus-pybombs.git
>> pybombs prefix init ~/rfnoc -R rfnoc
>> source ~/rfnoc/setup_env.sh
>>
>> and gnuradio using apt-get install...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Vishwesh
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 1:26 AM, Nicolas Cuervo <address@hidden
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Vishwesh,
>>>
>>> I believe that in this case it is only a matter of where the blocks are
>>> installed, and where grc is looking for them. When you install OOT modules
>>> (gr-ettus is itself an OOT module for RFNoC) it also has an installation
>>> path, where GRC is going to be looking for the blocks that are available,
>>> and the ones that are found are going to be listed there. I believe, from
>>> what you wrote in your email, that you are using PyBOMBS, and the PyBOMBS
>>> environment is really helpful in cases lake this one. Before setting up the
>>> environment it would be expected that the blocks are not found, as the
>>> enviromental variables that describe their location haven't been set. By
>>> sourcing the env, all the things that where installed with PyBOMBS are
>>> described with the environmental variables, and the the RFNoC blocks can be
>>> found.
>>>
>>> That is, you have to source your setup_env.sh every time that you want
>>> to use something from that given prefix. The reason why this is not done
>>> automatically (which is also the reason why it is not recommended to do
>>> so), is because you can set up multiple prefixes, each with a completely
>>> different configuration, which you can pull just by sourcing the
>>> setup_env.sh file.
>>>
>>> I hope this answers your question. Please let us know if further
>>> clarification is required.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -N
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Vishwesh Rege <address@hidden>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I'm unable to view RFNoC blocks in gnuradio-companion (in the block
>>>> list on the right side). Sometimes I can view them, under (unspecified) ?
>>>> uhd ? rfnoc but sometimes I can't for some reason. I have sourced
>>>> rfnoc/setup_env.sh which I believe had solved the problem previously. Does
>>>> anyone know the solution?
>>>>
>>>> Any suggestions appreciated. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Vishwesh
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Discuss-gnuradio mailing list
>>>> address@hidden
>>>> https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Vishwesh Rege
>> +1 (858) 729-4157 <(858)%20729-4157> | address@hidden |
>> https://sites.google.com/site/vishweshrege
>>
>
>


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