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Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] fast parallel filtering


From: Andy Walls
Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] fast parallel filtering
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 20:11:12 -0400

You're welcome.

I can report, that I can now see/detect pulses in the original I/Q
file you provided, using the latest flowgraph I provided.  I had to
set the trigger threshold down to 0.1 (down from my original 0.3).

I know they are pulses and not false alarms, because I can often see
two correlation peaks spaced at about 1.5 seconds apart.

In a real system, I'd try to dynamically adapt the threshold decision
point between correlator signal output and noise output for a given
false alarm rate.  My gut feeling is that to detect these weak pulses
in the original file, you're going to have to tolerate a fairly high
false alarm rate, if you want to detect the pulses.

Doing things to not allow noise into the system in the first place,
such as a VHF bandpass filter before the SDR unit, and proper
adjustment of the SDR's LNA and IF gains for best noise performance
would help.

Also being able to narrow down the possible variation in frequencies
where the signal might be at, say a 2 kHz channel vs. a 10 kHz
channel, would allow additional noise filtering and lower PLL loop
bandwidth, so that weaker signals could be pulled out.

Fun stuff.

Regards,
Andy


On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Dirk Gorissen <address@hidden> wrote:
> Amazing Andy, thank you for putting this time in. Im still digesting
> this but will report back
>
> On 18 March 2017 at 20:45, Andy Walls <address@hidden> wrote:
>> Dirk,
>>
>> Here is a revised flowgraph, slightly tweaked to reduce the
>> computational cost of the rotator and the filters.
>>
>> I wasn't intending to tweak the flowgraph, but today I decided to try
>> with a correlation filter with -5 kHz to +5 kHz chirp taps.  That
>> method turned out to be inferior to the PLL, so I didn't leave it in
>> the flowgraph.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Andy
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:46 AM, Andy Walls
>> <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2017-03-16 at 21:02 -0400, Andy Walls wrote:
>>>> Hi Dirk,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Try the attached flowgraph.  The pulse indicator output is a little crude
>>>> at the moment (it needs some latching persistence for a human to read),
>>>> but it does the job for a proof of concept.
>>>>
>>>> Note that in the future, you really do want to tune such the the SDR's 
>>>> center
>>>> freq spike is not in the band of interest.  That will prevent false lock 
>>>> on the
>>>> DC spike by the PLL.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Andy
>>>
>>> I should also mention a few things:
>>>
>>> 1. You could handle multiple channels in one of at least two ways:
>>>
>>> a. A polyphase channelizer with each channel having a PLL and Moving
>>> average filter instance.  (This can get CPU intensive.) Or...
>>>
>>> b. Scanning by stepping through and dwelling for a bit on your 10 kHz
>>> channels of interest.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. You can get better sensitivity the the PLL+Moving average correlation
>>> solution by going to a 2 stage process:
>>>
>>> a. Use the PLL+Moving Average filter to initially acquire some pulses.
>>>
>>> b. Once you find some pulses, extract what frequency they were at from
>>> the PLL's loop filter state at the time it was locked on the pulse.  You
>>> can then use this exact frequency information for a dedicated
>>> correlation filter to pull even weaker pulses out of the noise, and
>>> maintain track.  You'll have to use the magnitude of the correlation and
>>> not just the real part (because you'll have an arbitrary phase shift,
>>> since a straight correlation filter is a phase offset detector and not
>>> phase tracker like a PLL).
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Dirk Gorissen <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>> > Hi Andy,
>>>> >
>>>> > Very quickly collected some data off a different Tx. First at very
>>>> > close range, moving away, and then back again. It was quick and
>>>> > antenna was close to computer so perhaps quite noisy but should
>>>> > definitely have some strong pulses:
>>>> >
>>>> > https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5dKo9igl8W4WkRkUGQzcVJsQnc
>>>> >
>>>> > Havent managed to look at the pll stuff yet. Aim to do so this weekend.
>>>> > Cheers
>>>> > Dirk
>>>> >
>>>> > On 16 March 2017 at 07:22, Dirk Gorissen <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>> >> Mmm, thats odd. Those settings should be correct, maybe something went
>>>> >> wrong with the recording :(  I'll try to check in between things at
>>>> >> work today else will do so tonight.
>>>> >> Thanks for taking the time to look though.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 16 March 2017 at 00:39, Andy Walls <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>> >>> Hi Dirk:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> In the IQ data file you provided I can seem to find any pulses of the
>>>> >>> nominal 10 msec length, no matter how I filter and rotate the
>>>> >>> spectrum.
>>>> >>> There is a lot of EMI, which looks like the intermodulation products
>>>> >>> of a continuously on guy who is drifting/chirping down in frequency.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> So could you please confirm or clarify the following:
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> 1. The format of the binary data file.  I am assuming 32 bit float I
>>>> >>> and 32 bit float Q pairs, as that is what the GNURadio file sink would
>>>> >>> normally create.
>>>> >>> 2. The sample rate.  I am assuming 1 Msps.
>>>> >>> 3. The center freq.  I am assuming 150.22 MHz.
>>>> >>> 4. The pulse duration. I am assuming 10 milliseconds.
>>>> >>> 5. At what frequency offset, from the center frequency, should the
>>>> >>> pulse be at?  I'm assuming somewhere withing +/- 5 kHz of the center
>>>> >>> spike, but there are at least two EMI spikes in that range.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Thanks.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> -Andy
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 5:23 AM, Dirk Gorissen <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>> >>>> Hi Andy, Marcus,
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Thanks very much for taking the time to think about this.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Just to answer your questions:
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>Dirk's problem was the low SNR in his recording, so he'd like to take
>>>> >>>>>the shape of his pulse into consideration, but he doesn't know the
>>>> >>>>>spectral position of the same – Dirk, can you confirm?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Yes, Im dealing with a very weak signal against quite a bit of
>>>> >>>> background noise so the more prior knowledge I can leverage the
>>>> >>>> better.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>Dirk, thinking about this, the relation of the spectral uncertainty to
>>>> >>>>>the bandwidth of the pulse would be interesting  – can you refresh our
>>>> >>>>>memory? I think the pulse was 10ms long (so, pretty long) but I forgot
>>>> >>>>>how it looked like.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Yes, 10ms long (this is pretty exact), occurring every 1.5 seconds, in
>>>> >>>> the 150MHz range. My input stream is coming from an SDR.
>>>> >>>> As an aside I actually have multiple transmitters each pulsing at
>>>> >>>> slightly different frequencies (e.g., 150.10, 150.22, ...) but Im
>>>> >>>> happy to treat them independently so you can ignore that and assume
>>>> >>>> there is just one.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> You can see pictures of the pulse (taken a while back, for a specific
>>>> >>>> tx frequency) here: https://goo.gl/photos/Y3Ea6kJo1ewrcDYM8
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Note though that this is taken with the transmitter very close to the
>>>> >>>> antenna so the signal is unrealistically strong. So its just to
>>>> >>>> illustrate.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I also quickly captured a file with raw IQ samples (File sink) in case
>>>> >>>> anybody is interested. It starts with the transmitter very close to
>>>> >>>> antenna, moves progressively further until out of range and then back.
>>>> >>>> Its only about a minute or two tops but at 1msps it ended
>>>> >>>> up as 813 MB though.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B5dKo9igl8W4dWpiMmlEYWx3b0k?usp=sharing
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>What you really care about is
>>>> >>>>>that there's a *tone* for about 8ms < t < 12ms where there is none 
>>>> >>>>>else
>>>> >>>>>(to rule out detection of spurs and other interference), is that 
>>>> >>>>>right?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Yes. The "tone" happens every 1.5 seconds and I want to catch as many
>>>> >>>> of those occurrences as possible as the receiver moves through space.
>>>> >>>> So for every 1.5 seconds I need to make a decision: was there one, or
>>>> >>>> not.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Note that the receiver is moving. So perhaps initially I may be well
>>>> >>>> out of range of the signal and get nothing. But as I move closer as
>>>> >>>> some point I will start picking up those pulses. The earlier and more
>>>> >>>> reliably I can pick them up the better.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> I actually did spend some time looking at PLLs & the gnu radio block
>>>> >>>> at some point. However I readily admit to being a software person not
>>>> >>>> a DSP/Radio person. I have the day job to deal with today but I will
>>>> >>>> have a study of the PLL block given Andy's tips and report back.
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Cheers
>>>> >>>> Dirk
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> On 14 March 2017 at 16:37, Andy Walls <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 2017-03-14 at 12:00 -0400, address@hidden
>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2017 15:49:44 +0100
>>>> >>>>>> From: Marcus M?ller <address@hidden>
>>>> >>>>>> To: address@hidden
>>>> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] fast parallel filtering
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Hi Andy,
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Dirk's problem was the low SNR in his recording, so he'd like to 
>>>> >>>>>> take
>>>> >>>>>> the shape of his pulse into consideration, but he doesn't know the
>>>> >>>>>> spectral position of the same ? Dirk, can you confirm?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Ah, OK.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Dirk, thinking about this, the relation of the spectral uncertainty 
>>>> >>>>>> to
>>>> >>>>>> the bandwidth of the pulse would be interesting  ? can you refresh 
>>>> >>>>>> our
>>>> >>>>>> memory? I think the pulse was 10ms long (so, pretty long) but I 
>>>> >>>>>> forgot
>>>> >>>>>> how it looked like.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Having slept about this a couple of times: What you really care 
>>>> >>>>>> about
>>>> >>>>>> is
>>>> >>>>>> that there's a *tone* for about 8ms < t < 12ms where there is none
>>>> >>>>>> else
>>>> >>>>>> (to rule out detection of spurs and other interference), is that
>>>> >>>>>> right?
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Maybe we've been focussing too much on filter-based detection. What 
>>>> >>>>>> if
>>>> >>>>>> we just *use* that feature of the signal being periodic for a 
>>>> >>>>>> duration
>>>> >>>>>> of t, and not else? A PLL would be able to "lock" on the tone (much
>>>> >>>>>> like
>>>> >>>>>> an FM Radio with a PLL will lock on the station's carrier), and if 
>>>> >>>>>> we
>>>> >>>>>> observe the phase error being limited for t, we can derive there 
>>>> >>>>>> was a
>>>> >>>>>> pulse.
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Andy, does that sound like a feasible approach?
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Yes.  With the added benefit of GNURadio's carrier tracking PLL 
>>>> >>>>> actually
>>>> >>>>> performing part of the correlation operation for you, if it works 
>>>> >>>>> out.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> So use the carrier_tracking_pll block.  If it locks onto a good 
>>>> >>>>> signal,
>>>> >>>>> it will mix it down to DC.  Then all you need is an averaging filter,
>>>> >>>>> like the single pole IIR filter block or the moving average filter
>>>> >>>>> block, operating on the real part of that output.  That will act as a
>>>> >>>>> lock detector, and, I think, also completes a correlation operation, 
>>>> >>>>> if
>>>> >>>>> you use a non-normalized moving average filter (since the carrier
>>>> >>>>> tracking PLL block gives you a point by point complex multiply with 
>>>> >>>>> the
>>>> >>>>> conjugate of the complex carrier tone).
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> You'll want to set the PLL allowed min and max frequency bounds
>>>> >>>>> properly; be careful since the input arguments have tricky units.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> You'll also want the loop bandwidth set pretty wide, since you want 
>>>> >>>>> to
>>>> >>>>> lock-in rapidly.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Also, if I'm thinking about this properly:
>>>> >>>>> To get faster lock in, you may want your frequency range of interest 
>>>> >>>>> to
>>>> >>>>> be somewhere in between Fs/4 and Fs/2; and not near DC.  If you're
>>>> >>>>> within the lock-in range of the PLL, you'll lock within 1 cycle.  If
>>>> >>>>> you're in the pull-in range of the PLL, it can take many cycles to 
>>>> >>>>> get
>>>> >>>>> into lock.
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>> Regards,
>>>> >>>>> Andy
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Cheers,
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> Marcus
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> On 14.03.2017 14:18, Andy Walls wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> > If there is no information on the signal, why not just do a 
>>>> >>>>>> > straight
>>>> >>>>>> > energy detector:
>>>> >>>>>> >
>>>> >>>>>> > source -> complex bandpass filter -> complex to mag -> 
>>>> >>>>>> > burst/energy
>>>> >>>>>> detector -> QT Time sink (triggering on start of burst tag)
>>>> >>>>>> >
>>>> >>>>>> > The complex bandpass filter just has to catch all the frequencies 
>>>> >>>>>> > of
>>>> >>>>>> > interest.  (A complex bandpass filter does not have a symmetrical
>>>> >>>>>> image
>>>> >>>>>> > around DC.)
>>>> >>>>>> >
>>>> >>>>>> > The burst/energy detector has to detect some minimum number of 
>>>> >>>>>> > time
>>>> >>>>>> > domain samples contiguously above some noise/signal threshold that
>>>> >>>>>> you
>>>> >>>>>> > set, and tag the pulse.  It also has to detect when the time 
>>>> >>>>>> > domain
>>>> >>>>>> > samples fall below the threshold.  The burst/energy detector can
>>>> >>>>>> work
>>>> >>>>>> > with a preset noise/signal threshold, or you could periodically
>>>> >>>>>> > re-estimate that threshold.
>>>> >>>>>> >
>>>> >>>>>> > GNURadio does not have a stock block that does burst/energy
>>>> >>>>>> detection,
>>>> >>>>>> > so you'll have to find one on the 'Net or write one yourself.
>>>> >>>>>> >
>>>> >>>>>> > -Andy
>>>> >>>>>> >
>>>> >>>>>> >
>>>> >>>>>> > Dirk Gorissen wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> >> Hi Martin,
>>>> >>>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>>> >> The aim is to check for the existence of a 10ms pulse in the
>>>> >>>>>> incoming
>>>> >>>>>> >> radio signal (from an sdr). The thing is I only know the 
>>>> >>>>>> >> frequency
>>>> >>>>>> of
>>>> >>>>>> >> the pulse to within ~1khz.
>>>> >>>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>>> >> So a single filter in my case is: generate a synthetic pulse
>>>> >>>>>> (complex
>>>> >>>>>> >> sin wave) of the same length and with a frequency f. Then take 
>>>> >>>>>> >> the
>>>> >>>>>> >> reverse of the complex conjugate of this pulse to give me the 
>>>> >>>>>> >> taps
>>>> >>>>>> for
>>>> >>>>>> >> a FIR filter.
>>>> >>>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>>> >> Repeat the above for each frequency I want to check. E.g., 10
>>>> >>>>>> filters
>>>> >>>>>> >> each 100Hz apart.
>>>> >>>>>> >> Then I just take the magnitude of each filter output and push
>>>> >>>>>> through
>>>> >>>>>> >> a Max to get my final correlations.
>>>> >>>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>>> >> I can come up with an algorithm that tries to be clever and with
>>>> >>>>>> some
>>>> >>>>>> >> accounting tries to find what frequency matters most but I 
>>>> >>>>>> >> wouldnt
>>>> >>>>>> be
>>>> >>>>>> >> surprised if there is some theory you can use to do this more
>>>> >>>>>> >> efficiently or even in a single shot. But this is where Im 
>>>> >>>>>> >> unsure.
>>>> >>>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>>> >> Cheers
>>>> >>>>>> >> Dirk
>>>> >>>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>>> >> On 14 March 2017 at 01:09, Martin Braun <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> >>> How related are those filters? Is this a candidate for polyphase
>>>> >>>>>> DSP?
>>>> >>>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>> -- M
>>>> >>>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>> On 03/11/2017 02:01 PM, Dirk Gorissen wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>  Hi Marcus,
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>  Sorry, I should have clarified. You may recall an earlier 
>>>> >>>>>> >>>> thread
>>>> >>>>>> from
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>  mine where Im looking to pick out a short pulse from 
>>>> >>>>>> >>>> background
>>>> >>>>>> noise
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>  but I dont know the exact frequency of the pulse. Thought I
>>>> >>>>>> would
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>  start a new thread with a clear, specific question.
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>  There is an uncertainty of +/- 1khz. So I can define multiple
>>>> >>>>>> filters,
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>  correlating for different pulse frequencies across the 1khz
>>>> >>>>>> range. I
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>  can implement this with different filters running in parallel
>>>> >>>>>> but I
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>  was looking for a more flexible / efficient way.
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>  If you think this is out of scope for this list no problem at
>>>> >>>>>> all,
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>  just let me know.
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>  Cheers
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>  Dirk
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> On 11 March 2017 at 20:02, Marcus M?ller <address@hidden> 
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Dirk,
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> this is more of a general DSP question than a GNU Radio
>>>> >>>>>> question:
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> How do these filters relate to each other?
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> My gut feeling is that this gets a lot easier as soon as you
>>>> >>>>>> tell us why
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> you're doing this, i.e. for what purpose :)
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards,
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Marcus
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11.03.2017 19:28, Dirk Gorissen wrote:
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Given a stream of samples I would like to apply n slightly
>>>> >>>>>> different
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> filters to it with n being able to be chosen at runtime. 
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Then
>>>> >>>>>> combine
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> the results back to a single stream.
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> As a test I built a flowgraph with the following chains in
>>>> >>>>>> parallel for n
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> = 6
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>                 | ->  decimating fir filter 1 -> complex to
>>>> >>>>>> mag ->    |
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> stream -> | ->  decimating fir filter 2 -> complex to mag ->
>>>> >>>>>> |  -> Max
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> -> ...
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>                 |                                  ....
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>                         |
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>                 | ->  decimating fir filter n -> complex to
>>>> >>>>>> mag ->    |
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> So the same stream is sent to each chain (decimation is 1) 
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> and
>>>> >>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> output of each chain is pushed through a big Max block with 
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> 6
>>>> >>>>>> inputs.
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> This works but not particularly elegant and a bit annoying 
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> to
>>>> >>>>>> change
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> if I suddenly decide I want to change n. In particular it 
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> also
>>>> >>>>>> does
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> not seem computationally efficient.
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> What I would like is to replace the above by a single block
>>>> >>>>>> that
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> - replicates the input n times
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> - applies each filter on each replica
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> - combines the output again to a single stream
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> - have a tunable n parameter
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> - is fast
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I did this with an Embedded python block doing essentially
>>>> >>>>>> this:
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> for i in range(n):
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>      out[i] = scipy.signal.lfilter(taps[i], 1, input)
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> This is using exactly the same taps as in the chain case. 
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> This
>>>> >>>>>> works
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> but the output is different and worse than what I get with 
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> the
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> separate chains. As a test, instead of lfilter I tried:
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> gnuradio.filter.fir_filter_ccc(1,taps[i]).work(input[0],output)
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thinking perhaps that is a closer replica. But couldnt get 
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> it
>>>> >>>>>> to work..
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> I suspect there should be an easy / natural way of doing 
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> this
>>>> >>>>>> in
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> gnuradio. Looked at the filter bank / channelliser blocks 
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> but
>>>> >>>>>> failed
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> to get anywhere.
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> So what is the best way forward to do this?
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dirk
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>
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>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> --
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> _________________________________________
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Dr. Dirk Gorissen
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Mob: +44-7763-806-809
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Web: dirkgorissen.com
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Skype: dirk.gorissen
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Twitter  : twitter.com/dirkgor
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dirkgorissen
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>>
>>>> >>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> >>>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>>> >>
>>>> >>>>>> >> --
>>>> >>>>>> >> _________________________________________
>>>> >>>>>> >> Dr. Dirk Gorissen
>>>> >>>>>> >> Mob: +44-7763-806-809
>>>> >>>>>> >> Web: dirkgorissen.com
>>>> >>>>>> >> Skype: dirk.gorissen
>>>> >>>>>> >> Twitter  : twitter.com/dirkgor
>>>> >>>>>> >> LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dirkgorissen
>>>> >>>>>> >
>>>> >>>>>> >
>>>> >>>>>> > _______________________________________________
>>>> >>>>>> > Discuss-gnuradio mailing list
>>>> >>>>>> > address@hidden
>>>> >>>>>> > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnuradio
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> --
>>>> >>>> _________________________________________
>>>> >>>> Dr. Dirk Gorissen
>>>> >>>> Mob: +44-7763-806-809
>>>> >>>> Web: dirkgorissen.com
>>>> >>>> Skype: dirk.gorissen
>>>> >>>> Twitter  : twitter.com/dirkgor
>>>> >>>> LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dirkgorissen
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> _________________________________________
>>>> >> Dr. Dirk Gorissen
>>>> >> Mob: +44-7763-806-809
>>>> >> Web: dirkgorissen.com
>>>> >> Skype: dirk.gorissen
>>>> >> Twitter  : twitter.com/dirkgor
>>>> >> LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dirkgorissen
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > _________________________________________
>>>> > Dr. Dirk Gorissen
>>>> > Mob: +44-7763-806-809
>>>> > Web: dirkgorissen.com
>>>> > Skype: dirk.gorissen
>>>> > Twitter  : twitter.com/dirkgor
>>>> > LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dirkgorissen
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
> --
> _________________________________________
> Dr. Dirk Gorissen
> Mob: +44-7763-806-809
> Web: dirkgorissen.com
> Skype: dirk.gorissen
> Twitter  : twitter.com/dirkgor
> LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/dirkgorissen



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