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Re: Osmocom Source (frequency deviation)


From: Jeff Long
Subject: Re: Osmocom Source (frequency deviation)
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2020 17:30:21 -0400

By the way, 2000 samples per symbol is kind of high. It's usually something like 4.

Also, if the frequency offset is constant and this is just for experimentation, you can use a frequency translating filter, or possibly the frequency correction field on the osmocomm blocks (can't remember if it's passed through to the hackrf code).

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:21 PM Jeff Long <willcode4@gmail.com> wrote:
Depending on the bandwidth of your signal, that could be a lot of offset, and you might need a PLL to do frequency correction. That's 130 ppm, which is a little more than you should see between two HackRFs.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 5:13 PM Artur Nogueira <artur.nogsj@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks a lot.
I'll read the block specifications.
And yes, the offset is small (120 kHz).

Em qua., 24 de jun. de 2020 às 17:53, Jeff Long <willcode4@gmail.com> escreveu:
Assuming the difference is small enough, this is a normal RX problem that a GMSK demod should be able to handle. The labels on your frequency plot do not say what the offset is, but hint that it is small. Take a look at gmsk.py to see how it's handled in the built-in demod.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 4:10 PM Artur Nogueira <artur.nogsj@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Jeff,

Thanks for the feedback.
I'm using GNU Radio Version 3.7.13.5 and two Great Scott Gadgets HackRF units for the transmission/reception.
My workflow looks like this:

image.png

Do you usually use any artifact to compensate for this frequency shift?
I'm afraid this could affect demodulation and therefore the BER.

Best regards,
Artur 


Em qua., 24 de jun. de 2020 às 16:31, Jeff Long <willcode4@gmail.com> escreveu:
Artur,

You haven't mentioned what software you are using, how you have it configured, or what your flowgraph looks like.

If you are using two SDRs and the frequency difference is a few kHz, then that is just oscillator differences.

On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 3:12 PM Artur Nogueira <artur.nogsj@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi everyone,

I'm comparing the spectra of a pair of transmitted/received GMSK signals (carrier frequency = 923 MHz).
As expected, there is a certain channel attenuation.
Nevertheless, there is this frequency deviation at the Osmocom Source output:
image.png

I suppose this is something related to the receiver hardware.
Do you have a suggestion on how to compensate for this effect at a software level?

Best regards,
Artur


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