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Re: N210 DAC and ADC usage


From: Fabien PELLET
Subject: Re: N210 DAC and ADC usage
Date: Sat, 05 Mar 2022 20:16:49 +0100

Hi Marcus,

Thanks for the detailed answer. I already know get_rx_dboard_iface method as it is it that I use to access the IO of LFRX and LFTX.

The problem is that this is asynchrous. For my need, I would like to feed it synchronously at a defined sample rate for audio purpose for example.

Do you think if I write an OOT sink or source that use that method I can get create something near synchronous ?

Best regards,
Fabien, F4CTZ

---- Marcus Müller a écrit ----

Just realized that there *is* a C++ API:

usrp_block->get_device()->get_rx_dboard_iface()->read_aux_adc();

replace _rx_ with _tx_ for the LFTX, and read_aux_adc with write_aux_dac for the DAC.

Best regards,
Marcus

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On 05.03.22 13:31, Marcus Müller wrote:
> Hi Fabien,
>
> no need to modify the FPGA. The functionality is there – it's just not exposed to the
> user. Also, note that interacting with the auxiliary ADC and DAC is going to be
> asynchronous to the sample flow – there might be millions of samples from the main ADC
> that have flown by before an AUX_DAC setting takes effect!
>
> You also don't really need to modify UHD – you *can* use the UHD property tree (through
> uspr_block->get_device()->get_tree()->access() ), it's just not a proper, stable,
> well-tested, failure-checking API.
>
> Best regards,
> Marcus
>
> On 04.03.22 15:01, Fabien PELLET wrote:
>> Yes, sorry indeed I was talking about AUX_DAC and AUX_ADC that are replicated from the
>> motherboard.
>>
>> I already use IO which works very well. So there is no way to send samples (or receive)
>> at a specific sample rate using that AUX_DAC or ADC. It is just some "analog IOs" for
>> reading some external sensors for example if I understand well what you wrote.
>>
>> What are the specifications of that AUX ?
>>
>> Using a specifique FPGA firmware and custom UHD library, would it be possible to
>> transform them as GR source or sink ?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Fabien, F4CTZ.
>>
>> Le 04/03/2022 à 14:35, Marcus Müller a écrit :
>>> Sorry, hit "send" accidentally:
>>>
>>> Dear Fabien,
>>>
>>> there's no ADC on these daughterboards. Just an EEPROM for identification, opamps for
>>> amplification and signal conditioning, and on the LFTX a switch-mode power supply.
>>> You're right, they do exppose the AUX DACs and ADC lines from the motherboad.
>>>
>>> However, these are without further ado not accessible from UHD, and thus also not from
>>> GNU Radio. Some daughterboard drivers use them.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure UHD exposes them in all version, but `uhd_usrp_probe --tree` might show
>>> properties called "AUX_DAC_A" (or _B, or AUX_ADC_.., you get the idea). You can use
>>> get_device() on your USRP blocks and access theses properties from your GNU Radio
>>> program (from C++), but it's not really an API – more an exposing of intestines...
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>> On 04.03.22 14:30, Marcus Müller wrote:
>>>> Dear Fabien,
>>>>
>>>> there's no ADC on these daughterboards. Just an EEPROM for identification, opamps for
>>>> amplification and signal conditioning, and on the LFTX a switch-mode power supply.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>> On 04.03.22 10:30, Fabien PELLET wrote:
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> As there are IOs available on LFTX and LFRX, there are also ADC and DAC available.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to use them as SOURCE and SINK in gnuradio for low speed conversion ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Fabien, F4CTZ.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>


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