Re: Re[2]: GNUstep roadmap (was Re: [Suggestion] GNUstep-test for quality control)

[Helge Hess]

On 24.10.2003, at 00:26, Manuel Guesdon wrote:
> > | I absolutely agree. GNUstep might be good for *Linux* (or BSD or
> > | whatever free system) developers who sooner or later intend to port 
> > to
> > | MacOSX, but not for the reverse.
>
> I don't agree :-)
> Personally, I don't care about MacOSX but I like xStep API. When I've 
> heard about NeXT something like 10 years ago, I've found this was very 
> superior to windows development APIs.
> Now, after having used Borland, MFC, php, and lots of thing, I really 
> appreciate
> GNUstep and *nix . I don't have interest in Mac OS X or windows 
> _today_. May be tomorrow or the day after tomorrow...

Hm, I can't follow you. That exactly proves what I said. GNUstep is 
only interesting for Linux/BSD people, *not* for MacOSX people.

> > | Well ... whether Windows is important basically comes down to what 
> > the
> > | "GS project" is. Philip sees GS as EOF+WO and in this case I fully
> > | agree, Windows is absolutely crucial. All successful Web development
> > | environment run and need to run on Windows, this is true for PHP, 
> > Zope,
> > | MySQL, J2EE, etc.
>
> Well, I thing about projects for which I'd be interested in having 
> GNustep running on Unix _and_ Windows.
> But It's not a need for everyone. If you have to deploy on unix and 
> you can develop on unix, there's no need for windows port.

Yes, I only pointed out that this is crucial to be successful (if you 
want to address a criticial mass). Hardcore WO freaks will immediatly 
jump into WO on Unix. But unfortunately this is not sufficient, you 
need actual, regular users to be successful.

As I said before, that OGo doesn't currently run on Windows isn't 
mission critical. But if it would, it would reach a much larger 
audience. I get at least on request per week whether OGo runs on 
Windows. And as mentioned a *lot* of people run Windows on their 
development desktop. Even if they never would actually deploy a system 
on Windows, they definitely would like to try out the stuff on their 
local machine first.

regards,
  Helge
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