Re: Re: Thoughts triggered by these NeXTbuntu guys

[Nicolas Roard]

On 8/31/06, Tima Vaisburd <tima@vaisburd.net> wrote:
> But I can't find an equivalent of gui/back combination. To my mind,
> it's the gui/back that's crucial. But I'm repeating myself...

agree..

> But I tried to demonstrate that simple tasks from Apple online tutorial, like
> read the bitmap image, turn it 90 degrees, scale it twice and save back
> cannot be done with the current state of GNUstep at all.
> How can you do graphics, then?

hmmm which tutorial is it ? because you can already write in an image
context (at least if you use backart, but I think it works with
back-xlib too), so I'd think it should work, and if it doesn't it
shouldn't be much to fix...

> No application satisfactory works remotely - at all. How can I choose,
> say, GNUMail.app to be my default mailer?

why not?

Personally it was my default mailer for a long time (since then I
mostly use gmail though, because access everywhere is more convenient
to me, but well, it's not gnumail's fault!)

> And I believe there are other areas. (E. g. I could not make cursor tracking
> to work - again according to apple online tutorial).

Could you provide a small test program ?

> To my mind, this is the lack of basic functionality. With those things
> missing, the visual appearance of already working widgets becomes
> a matter of secondary importance, I believe.

yep.

> So I'll summarize again:
>
> 1. Let's be honest to ourself and to the outer world about the state of
>     project completeness. Illusions can only harm.

ok...

> 2. It would be nice to finish certain pieces of functionality in GUI:
>      - bitmap formats saving

Well, you can save in TIFF... :-P
Actually I implemented jpeg saving support, I will try to take the time
to clean it and commit it this weekend.

>      - saving image after manipulation (already works?)

it should... I guess it perhaps depends how you do it, but basically I
create images on the fly in Camaelon, so ...

>      - (does animation work?)

what do you mean?

>      - cairo backend (and make it fast)

Yes..

>      - maybe something else that other people know better

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