Re: NeXT GNU Homage Project Work

[Liam Proven]

On 17 November 2015 at 18:18, Riccardo Mottola
<riccardo.mottola@libero.it> wrote:
>
> I dissent this, I have installed various systems and on a standard
> configuration, especially if you can jsut partition one single disk, I found
> all three major BSDs easy to install like Linux.
>
> The installer is nicely text based, but it is easy and leaves you a working
> system. Especially OpenBSD is extremely easy to maintain. It has an
> excellent way to update your packages every 6 months, seamless upgrades.
>
> Granted,I upgraded my FreeBSD workstation and X now doesn't work.. but on my
> laptop freezes due to X drivers now and then too, so I'd call that a tie!


I am not disputing your experiences, but mine are radically different.

And while it is slightly off the direct topic, I think it is relevant.

While it is a good thing that there are OSes that have a working
current version of the GNUstep environment, I submit that,
increasingly, Linux means the Debian family, and for most people,
specifically Ubuntu. It is the easiest to install, the easiest to
update, the most rich and complete and widely-supported free OS that
exists.

*That* is what should be the #1 priority to support well with GNUstep.

The answer to the problem "I can't install GNUstep on Ubuntu or
Debian" is _not_ "install FreeBSD instead". It's not "install
$ANY_OTHER_OS".

It's to have current, working packages for Debian and to get them
included in the Debian OS so that they are also available to
downstream projects such as Ubuntu.

Ubuntu is something like 20x more widely-used than any other distro
based on accesses to Wikipedia:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1970241

Even tech-geek sites see 3x more traffic from Ubuntu than from any other distro:

http://redmonk.com/dberkholz/2013/05/20/ranking-linux-distributions-and-the-decline-of-the-traditional-distros/

I'm not saying Ubuntu is perfect. It's not. But it's the leading
distro, it offers all the major desktops, it has official remixes with
Unity, KDE, GNOME 3, Maté, Xfce and LXDE, and it does have (horribly
outdated) GNUstep packages in its repos.

There is also a current Raspberry Pi version.

This is what we need to target if we want people to see and try GNUstep.

And everything that argues for Ubuntu over Fedora/SUSE/Arch/$DISTRO is
true 10x over for Linux versus any BSD. All the BSDs together have
orders of magnitude fewer users than Linux, and most of those on
servers.



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