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Re: TUTORIAL.bg and windows-1251

From: Kenichi Handa
Subject: Re: TUTORIAL.bg and windows-1251
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 22:17:12 +0900 (JST)
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In article <address@hidden>, Ognyan Kulev <address@hidden> writes:
>>  Have you tested copy&paste of Cyrillic text between Emacs
>>  and the other applications (e.g. Mozilla)?  Did it work well?

> I've tested it now and it worked well in both directions.

Thank you for confirming it.   I'll install that change next
week (I must go to Kyoto soon).

>>  But, if he is not in a lang. env. that mainly uses
>>  windows-1251, I think we can't assume that he want to see
>>  them in microsoft-cp1251 font.  I think the possibility that
>>  he has iso10646 font is higher.

> You're right.  But we return back to the initial problem: I have 
> -monotype-courier new-*-iso10646-1 and -cronyx-courier-*-iso10646-1, 
> both with cyrillic characters.  But instead of these, 
> -adobe-courier-*-iso10646-1 is used, which hasn't cyrillic characters. 
> And I think that this -adobe-courier-*-iso10646-1 is part of XFree86, so 
> it's almost everywhere and f^Hruins everything.  

Don't you have -misc-fixed-*-iso10646-1?  They contains
cyrillic characters.  I thought they are included in the
latest XFree86.  At least my debian and redhat have them.

By the way, you can inhibit using
-adobe-courier-*-iso10646-1 by specifying it in
face-ignored-fonts.  Please try this.

(setq face-ignored-fonts '(("-adobe-courier-.*-iso10646-1")))

> IMHO cyrillic 
> characters in windows-1251 has to be mapped to koi8-r or iso8859-5 font 
>   (when not in Bulgarian lang.env.), instead of iso10646-1 font.  But 
> which of these two fonts is more popular world-wide -- I don't know.

It seems that both koi8-r and iso8859-5 doesn't covers all
characters in windows-1251.  Then, I think iso10646-1 is
better (as far as it contains cyrillic chars).

>>  By the way, I'm now designing a facility to use
>>  microsoft-cp1251 for Cyrillic characters automatically in
>>  Bulgarian lang. env. by implementing something like this.

> Given that Bulgarian language environment is automatically selected when 
> LANG=bg_BG,


>  I'm completely satisfied with this.

Ok, I'll keep on working on it.

Ken'ichi HANDA

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