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Re: Proposal: emacs -Q option

From: Kim F. Storm
Subject: Re: Proposal: emacs -Q option
Date: 05 Feb 2004 13:41:44 +0100
User-agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50

Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden> writes:

> > From: address@hidden (Kim F. Storm)
> > Date: 05 Feb 2004 02:42:44 +0100
> > 
> >         emacs -q --no-site-file --no-splash 
> >               --eval '(blink-cursor-mode -1)' 
> >               --eval '(tool-bar-mode -1)'
> >               --eval '(scroll-bar-mode -1)'
> >               --eval '(tooltip-mode -1)'
> >               --eval '(setq visible-bell t)'
> > 
> > (the last line is because the audible bell drives me crazy).
> > 
> > I propose to add a -Q option which is equivalent to this, i.e.
> > 
> >         emacs -Q
> > 
> > does the same thing as the above call.
> IMHO, using -Q for "-q --no-site-file" is fine, but adding all the
> other turn-offs makes this switch too heavily loaded.  

Makes sense, so ok, -Q was a bad choice...

>                                                        Why does it
> make sense to combine  "-q --no-site-file", which basically means
> ``defeat all local deviations from the defaults'' with the rest,
> which disable fancy features?  

I think I explained _WHY_ I want a single, easy-to-type, option:

  When I work on debugging redisplay related problems in emacs (I seem
  to be doing that quite a lot), I usually need to start emacs with as
  few display elements (like tool-bars, menu-bar, scroll-bars, etc) as
  possible, as well as not loading any of the various init files,

>                                And what does visible-bell setting
> have to do with turning off features?

Nothing, which I indicated by this comment:

  (the last line is because the audible bell drives me crazy).

and unfortunately, no, Linux cannot control the volume of the built-in
speaker in my notebook.

> I'd say let's make two options, one for "-q --no-site-file", the other
> for --no-splash and the --eval options mentioned above, excluding the
> visible-bell one.

Yes, indeed, we can add all sorts of new options which add new
functionalities or combines other options, such as -Q meaning
load no user or site defaults at all (including X resources?).

But my requirement was an option which makes life easier for me as a
GNU Emacs developer trying to debug redisplay related problems.

So if -Q isn't the right option for that, what other simple option can
I use?  -K perhaps :-)

Kim F. Storm <address@hidden> http://www.cua.dk

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