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Re: File menu changes (suggestions)
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David Kastrup |
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Re: File menu changes (suggestions) |
Date: |
Tue, 28 Jun 2005 08:36:03 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden> writes:
>> From: "Drew Adams" <address@hidden>
>> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:33:47 -0700
>>
>> With all due respect, don't get nasty.
>
> If you get arrogant, I get nasty.
We don't need an arms' race in escalation.
>> If you take the (arrogant?) point of view that we have already
>> achieved the "best of all possible worlds" because lots of
>> discussion, research, experimentation, and expertise went into the
>> existing design, then yes, it's futile not only to suggest
>> repeating a past state but also to suggest any other changes.
>
> Not everything in Emacs is based on such an effort. The current
> menu structure is. I never said that it's the best of all possible
> arrangements, but the fact that we changed it from A to B does mean
> that the merits and demerits of A vs B were already considered and
> after a long and constructive discussion we concluded that B is
> better. So going back to A without at least pointing out where the
> previous considerations were incorrect is a regression (a negative
> label) that wastes our valuable time and energy, and on top of that
> threatens to set us back 5 or 6 years.
Well, Drew is right that not every change is progress, but unless a
change has produced new insights or new information is volunteered, I
agree that the difference is not likely to merit wasting considerable
time discussing it.
We have other areas that are clearly quite more in need of further
improvement.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
- Re: File menu changes (suggestions), (continued)
- Re: File menu changes (suggestions), David Kastrup, 2005/06/27
- RE: File menu changes (suggestions), Drew Adams, 2005/06/27
- Re: File menu changes (suggestions), Eli Zaretskii, 2005/06/27
- RE: File menu changes (suggestions), Drew Adams, 2005/06/27
- Re: File menu changes (suggestions), Eli Zaretskii, 2005/06/27
- RE: File menu changes (suggestions), Drew Adams, 2005/06/27
- Re: File menu changes (suggestions), Eli Zaretskii, 2005/06/27
- Re: File menu changes (suggestions),
David Kastrup <=
- Re: File menu changes (suggestions), Jason Rumney, 2005/06/26
- Re: File menu changes (suggestions), Miles Bader, 2005/06/26
- Re: File menu changes (suggestions), Eli Zaretskii, 2005/06/27
- Re: File menu changes (suggestions), Miles Bader, 2005/06/27
- Re: File menu changes (suggestions), David Kastrup, 2005/06/27
- Re: File menu changes (suggestions), Eli Zaretskii, 2005/06/27
- Re: File menu changes (suggestions), Jason Rumney, 2005/06/27
- Re: File menu changes (suggestions), Miles Bader, 2005/06/27
- Re: File menu changes (suggestions), Eli Zaretskii, 2005/06/27
- Re: File menu changes (suggestions), David Kastrup, 2005/06/27