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Re: Shift-movement selection
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Stefan Monnier |
Subject: |
Re: Shift-movement selection |
Date: |
Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:38:51 -0400 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) |
>>> Anything that doesn't modify the buffer -- e.g. all movement commands.
>>
>> Supposedly these will be changed to use the new function, so they will
>> explicitly deactivate the mark if the mark was activated with shift and
>> the movement is then performed without the shift.
>>
>> So again, which ones would be left?
> Are you serious? You intend to modify _every_ movement command in
> Emacs, and require that users modify whatever commands they have
> written?
Actually, that's not a requirement. The failure to change one such
command is pretty harmless. It just means that you can't combine the
command with a shift to select the region, and that if the region was
selected with a shift and you use this command without a shift, it will
fail to deactivate the region. The first will disappoint the user, and
the second may surprise him (tho pc-select worked this way for years
before someone complained), but neither sounds terrible, so the commands
can be changed little-by-little.
> You intend to do this when a simple, clean, and more general
> solution exists, with no apparent downsides?
Haven't yet seen other "simple and clean" solutions.
> Maybe for activating shift-selection, annotating commands is the best we
> can do, but it's very clear that for deactivating it, we can do better.
If a change is needed for activation, I see no harm in using the same
change for deactivation.
This said, I'm not opposed to using the `only' thingy for the
deactivation.
Stefan
- Re: Shift-movement selection, (continued)
- Re: Shift-movement selection, Stefan Monnier, 2008/03/11
- Re: Shift-movement selection, Richard Stallman, 2008/03/12
- Re: Shift-movement selection, Richard Stallman, 2008/03/12
- Re: Shift-movement selection, Kim F. Storm, 2008/03/12
- Re: Shift-movement selection, Thomas Lord, 2008/03/12
- Re: Shift-movement selection, Richard Stallman, 2008/03/12
- Re: Shift-movement selection, Thomas Lord, 2008/03/12
- Re: Shift-movement selection, Richard Stallman, 2008/03/12
- Re: Shift-movement selection, Thomas Lord, 2008/03/12
- Re: Shift-movement selection, Miles Bader, 2008/03/10
- Re: Shift-movement selection,
Stefan Monnier <=
- Re: Shift-movement selection, Richard Stallman, 2008/03/11
- Re: Shift-movement selection, Richard Stallman, 2008/03/10
- Re: Shift-movement selection, Stefan Monnier, 2008/03/10
- Re: Shift-movement selection, Richard Stallman, 2008/03/11
- Re: Shift-movement selection, Lennart Borgman (gmail), 2008/03/11
- Re: Shift-movement selection, Richard Stallman, 2008/03/12
- Re: Shift-movement selection, Alan Mackenzie, 2008/03/11
- Re: position on changing defaults?, Stefan Monnier, 2008/03/06
- Re: position on changing defaults?, Miles Bader, 2008/03/06
- Re: position on changing defaults?, Richard Stallman, 2008/03/08