Re: FW: Minibuf menu when minibuffer is standalone

[Lennart Borgman (gmail)]

Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > For learning perhaps? Maybe not very useful for you though ... ;-)
>
> > However looking at the Minibuff menu when doing C-x C-f in CVS Emacs 23
> > I see a little bit strangeness:
>
> >   Minibuff
> >    Complete -- TAB
> >    Complete Word
> >    List Completions -- ?
> >    Previous History Item -- M-p
> >    Next History Item -- M-n
> >    Isearch History Backward -- C-r
> >    Isearch History Forward -- C-s
> >    Enter -- C-j
> >    Quit -- M-ESC ESC
>
> > I would perhaps expect some to be different
>
> >    Previous History Item -- up
> >    Next History Item -- down
> >    Quit -- C-g
>
> > It seems like the choice of keybinding to show could be done better.
>
> The Quit one looks bad indeed.  The other 2 are right: we want to show
> the bindings which work everywhere whenever possible, whereas `up' and
> `down' keys may not always be available.

It is a difficult choice what to choose, but I would prefer up/down for 
beginners. Are there really any cases where up/down are not available today?

> >    Enter -- C-j
>
> > I do not understand that one at all.
>
> That's not too good either, indeed, but I don't see it here (it just
> doesn't say anything at all for me).

Emacs 23.0.60.1, 2008-03-10.

But I can't understand why "Enter" should be in the menu. It is really 
not surprising that you press ENTER to enter the data, or is it? Of 
course I see a lot of people entering data in a web browser using the 
mouse to click the submit button, but I do not think anyone of them uses 
Emacs ...