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Re: Transient Mark Mode on by default
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Sascha Wilde |
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Re: Transient Mark Mode on by default |
Date: |
Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:16:56 +0100 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) |
Chong Yidong <address@hidden> wrote:
> Sascha Wilde <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> I liked the philosophy behind the old way better: make the defaults
>> simple and clean and leave it to the user to turn on all the bells,
>> whistles and trautonii he likes.
>
> Only within reason.
Agreed.
> For example, we turn Font Lock mode on by
> default.
This is an interesting example, as Font Lock mode is actually one of the
features I my self like very much and I used to turn it on in my .emacs
long before it was made default. But I'm still not perfectly sure, that
making it default was trttd.
> Similarly, Transient Mark mode works very well
One might argue, that Transient Mark mode is way more intrusive than
Font Lock.
> (due to years of Emacs hackers turning it on in their own init files),
> and provides a real benefit to new users (direct visual feedback).
I have to state that I'm very skeptical about that "new users"
argument. Granted: it will help people coming from usual gui-driven
editors to "feel at home" -- but on the other hand I suspect that many
of this "oh I know this" features prevent new users from learning the
"Emacs way" of things, which IMNSHO is at least worth knowing it.
Further more, I recall from my newbie times, that being forced to look
at the manual for some rather basic features I expected from an editor
like Emacs to have, actually helped me, as it made me come across some
of the less obvious features early.
In short: a user who quickly believes to know how an elaborated tool
works is likely to miss something important.
[...]
> Don't worry---we aren't gonna go down the path of XEmacs.
Sooo good to read this... :-)
cheers
sascha
--
Sascha Wilde : "I heard that if you play the Windows CD backward, you
: get a satanic message. But that's nothing compared to
: when you play it forward: It installs Windows...."
: -- G. R. Gaudreau
- Re: Honoring traditional defaults, (continued)
- Re: Honoring traditional defaults, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2008/03/25
- Re: Honoring traditional defaults [was: Transient Mark Mode on by default], Lennart Borgman (gmail), 2008/03/24
- Re: Honoring traditional defaults [was: Transient Mark Mode on by default], Alan Mackenzie, 2008/03/25
- Re: Honoring traditional defaults [was: Transient Mark Mode on by default], Lennart Borgman (gmail), 2008/03/25
- Re: Honoring traditional defaults [was: Transient Mark Mode on by default], Mike Mattie, 2008/03/25
- RE: Transient Mark Mode on by default, Drew Adams, 2008/03/26
- Re: Honoring traditional defaults [was: Transient Mark Mode on by default], Stephen J. Turnbull, 2008/03/26
- Re: Honoring traditional defaults [was: Transient Mark Mode on by default], Jari Aalto, 2008/03/29
Re: Transient Mark Mode on by default, Sascha Wilde, 2008/03/24
RE: Transient Mark Mode on by default, Drew Adams, 2008/03/24
Re: Transient Mark Mode on by default, Alan Mackenzie, 2008/03/24
Re: Transient Mark Mode on by default, Chong Yidong, 2008/03/24
Re: Transient Mark Mode on by default, Chong Yidong, 2008/03/24
Re: Transient Mark Mode on by default, Mathias Dahl, 2008/03/25
Re: Transient Mark Mode on by default, Stephen J. Turnbull, 2008/03/24
Re: Transient Mark Mode on by default, Chong Yidong, 2008/03/24