Re: -Q / --no-site-file and site-lisp/

[Lennart Borgman (gmail)]

Tassilo Horn wrote:
> Reiner Steib <address@hidden> writes:
>
> Hi Reiner,
>
> > > > .../share/emacs/site-lisp is in the load path, even with `-Q'. One
> > > > has to keep that in mind. Which I didn't do either. ;)
> > > Hm, wouldn't it be sensible to remove it from `load-path' if -Q was
> > > given?
> > I think so.  See
> > <http://thread.gmane.org/address@hidden>:
> >
> > ,----
> > | From: Reiner Steib
> > | Subject: Should -Q / --no-site-file eval `subdirs.el'?
> > | Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel
> > | Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 14:15:01 +0200
> > | Message-ID: <address@hidden>
> > |
> > | Hi,
> > |
> > | when running `emacs -Q', I was surprised to see site-lisp/*/ in my
> > | `load-path'.  Although the manual (cmdargs.texi [1]) doesn't say
> > | anything about `subdirs.el' (it's not mentioned in the manual at
> > | all), I'd expect "minimum customizations"[1] *not* to modify
> > | `load-path'.  E.g. I have some other Gnus version installed in
> > | site-lisp.  I'd expect Gnus 5.11 from Emacs 22 after `M-x gnus RET',
> > | but I get the version from site-lisp.
> > `----
> >
> > Richard replied:
> >
> > ,----
> > | From: Richard Stallman
> > | Subject: Re: Should -Q / --no-site-file eval `subdirs.el'?
> > | Date: 2007-08-05 20:54:34 GMT
> > | 
> > | I think it should load subdirs.el.  Hiding the packages available on
> > | your site is not the purpose.
> > `----
>
> Well, if that's Richard's opinion, that's fine.  But there should be
> some option (i.e. --vanilla, -V) which is like -Q and does not load any
> external packages.

Do you mean "does not alter load-path" by running any site-lisp/subdirs.el?

I think that would be useful. (Maybe there could be a --no-site-dir in 
addition to -V?)

> We always say "give a recipe starting with emacs -Q", but that's not
> sufficient if the bug is in some external package in site-lisp/.
>
> Bye,
> Tassilo