Re: C-j considered harmful (not really)

[Per Starbäck]

2009/11/17 Juri Linkov <address@hidden>:
>>> That key should be used in I-search with the same meaning as C-j has
>>> now, and should
>>> be possible to use instead of C-q C-j to enter a newline in minibuffer
>>> input. Maybe
>>> <C-return> could be used for this?

> In IM clients, S-RET inserts newline, and RET accepts input.

Evidently <S-return> is used to insert newlines in lots of programs.
I've just searched
for "shift-return" and "shift-enter" on the web and seen many examples.

After reconsidering this I then suggest just that <S-return> should be
usable as an alternative to C-j.

* nice for those who are used to that from other programs
* easier to remember for most new users
* I realize now I would like it personally as well. I used the
linefeed key a lot back when I used a vt100,
but nowadays I have keyboards without a linefeed key, like most of
them are. I could use C-j but I find
myself typing RET TAB far more often. I think it would be easier to
learn to linefeed-deprived fingers to
sneak in a shift with the RET.
* Since <S-return> isn't always available it should probably not be
used for some new command anyway,
so this is as good a use of it as there is.