Re: The copyright issue

[Andreas Röhler]

Am 10.08.2010 09:50, schrieb David Kastrup:
> Andreas Röhler<address@hidden>  writes:
>
>    
> > Am 09.08.2010 18:16, schrieb David Kastrup:
> >      
> > > But Tauss was not just informing himself about a machinery, he was
> > > actively participating in it and feeding it.
> > >        
> > Really? Don't believe that. He states different.
> >      
> I recommend that you inform yourself better.
>
> His own press declaration (so something which he prepared voluntarily
> without time pressure and with the intent of giving his own view as a
> public defense) in
> <URL:http://www.welt.de/politik/article3359388/Tauss-Erklaerung-im-Wortlaut.html>
> states:
>
>      Es gibt heute nach meiner Erfahrung nur noch geschlossene
>      Benutzergruppen und eine entsprechende Vorsicht. Sie kommen dem
>      überhaupt auch nur nahe, wenn Sie szenetypisch auftreten und selbst
>      „Material“, sozusagen als Eintrittskarte, anzubieten haben. „Ich
>      schicke Dir und Du schickst mir - so sind wir beide
>      „abgesichert“. Das begründet, warum ich das wenige selbst erhaltene
>      kinderpornographische Material aufbewahrt habe.
>
> He also paid money for that kind of material and thus kept the machinery
> going:
>
>      Da ich wenig für ihn interessantes Tauschmaterial hatte, wollte er
>      einschlägiges Material nur gegen Zahlung von 100 € liefern. Ich
>      zahlte und erhielt mehrere Datenträger,
>
> [...]
>
>      Daher zahlte ich weitere 100 Euro, um die in Aussicht gestellten
>      Kontakte zu bekommen. Als weitere Informationen aber ausblieben und
>      „Sascha“ plötzlich behauptete, von mir kein Geld bekommen zu haben,
>      verfolgte ich den Kontakt nicht weiter.
>
> All in all he keeps the incriminating material around because he
> considers it necessary for the investigation which he claims he decided
> to abort after a short duration.  And that is his own press release.
>
>    

So far so right.
But were is the crime?

1th He just got the material  for its own knowledge. He didn't spread it.

2th He was in charge by his parliamentary group for just these matter, 
drafting/commenting a law designed to prevent the spread of childs-porn 
over the net.

If its not allowed to members of parliament to recherche in legal 
matters, which they are asked for consentment concerning new laws, where 
the proclaimed free access to information should start then?

Maybe read some more press-releases from Jörg Tauss commenting  its 
courts proceedings.
That may help understand, why we can't refer to courts defending free 
speech, resp. free software.



> So I really recommend that you adjust your hero worship at least down to
> the level of his own representation and words.  And most importantly,
> take it elsewhere.  It has nothing, I repeat, nothing to do on the Emacs
> developer list.  And discussions about the GPL and GNU policies are at
> best marginally on-topic on this list, anyway, when we are talking about
> the technical consequences and actual work of keeping Emacs in line with
> the GNU maintenance policies.
>
>