Re: python.el cleanup

[Andreas Röhler]

Am 30.03.2011 04:58, schrieb Christoph Scholtes:
> Stefan Monnier<address@hidden>  writes:
>
> > Could you just clarify why they're considered obsolete (e.g. what would
> > the user use instead)?
>
> `python-shell' is not needed since Dave's mode already had
> 'run-python' to invoke the python interpreter. It offers no advantages
> over run-python as far as I can tell except being able to toggle
> between a Python and a Jython shell (see below for comments on that).
>
> `python-comint-filter-function' is only called from `python-shell'.
>
> `python-file-queue' is never populated anywhere, only read from
> `python-comint filter-function'.
>
> `python-default-interpreter' is only used by `python-shell' and not,
> as advertised in its documentation, on first visiting a Python mode
> buffer.
>
> `python-python-command-args' and `python-jython-command-args' are only
> used in the `python-toggle-shell' function.
>
> `python-which-shell', `python-which-args' and `python-which-bufname'
> are used for toggling between the Python and Jython shell.
>
> Finally, `python-toggle-shell'. I think, that we should provide a better
> solution for this and therefore remove the current implementation. This
> code came from python-mode.el, if I traced that back right.


Hi Christoph,

glad to see Emacs python facilities improve. As you mention 
python-mode.el, there are some remarks in python.el which I feel are not 
correct. If some solution predates historically another, there are 
usually some setbacks from being the first.

OTOH from my perspective python-mode.el has still some point in proceding.

Hopefully we may discuss the pro and cons to the benefit of users, which 
flavour they may choose finally. As you might have been remarked, its 
interwoven to an extend, you can seldom discern it clearly to the one or 
other origin.

BTW I'm not blaming the GNU's side. Just wanted to point at the issue so 
we might hopefully reduce the obstacles.

Cheers


Andreas

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> Python interpreter selection should be universal and not only support Jython
> and CPython, but also IronPyton, PyPy etc. I would like to implement a
> better solution for this as soon as Fabian's changes are installed. I am
> using IronPython quite a bit and it would be nice to be able to switch
> flexibly between different interpreters.
>
> Christoph