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Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight
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Ted Zlatanov |
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Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight |
Date: |
Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:16:53 -0500 |
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Gnus/5.110018 (No Gnus v0.18) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:19:59 +0300 Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden> wrote:
EZ> That is fine for newcomers to smtpmail. But put myself in my shoes: I
EZ> configured my smtpmail years ago, and don't even remember the name of
EZ> my SMTP server, let alone the password. People like me will not be
EZ> amused if their old setup suddenly stops working until they dust out
EZ> old instructions.
The variable is obsoleted. Isn't that the normal way to do it, possibly
annoying people? It's not particularly hard to migrate the info
yourself, as I mentioned.
EZ> Unlike other software, Emacs didn't until now break customizations in
EZ> such a way, not without some sort of interim period when users were
EZ> told to migrate.
Since 24.x is a major release, maybe it's OK. How would you do it?
On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 19:51:29 +0300 Eli Zaretskii <address@hidden> wrote:
EZ> Why do we have to have this incompatibility? Why cannot
EZ> smtpmail-auth-credentials continue be supported, in addition to the
EZ> new ~/.authinfo? E.g., note the value of the variable and
EZ> automatically write ~/.authinfo?
>>
>> I think that leaves `smtpmail-auth-credentials' in place, where it will
>> confuse the user.
EZ> How can my own customization on my own .emacs confuse me?
There are now two places where the credentials live, if we follow your
scheme. You can forget about ~/.authinfo and modify
`smtpmail-auth-credentials' which won't work. I think that's a bad
situation.
>> So IMO the conversion should also unset `smtpmail-auth-credentials'.
EZ> I see no need for that. Emacs doesn't modify .emacs except during
EZ> explicit use of Customize.
I'm sure in at least a few places I've seen a defcustom set explicitly
and saved. But the point is, we want to *migrate* and that implies
dropping the old settings. Otherwise it's *copying*.
Ted
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, (continued)
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Robert Pluim, 2011/06/23
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/06/22
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, 2011/06/22
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/06/22
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, 2011/06/22
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/06/22
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/06/21
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, 2011/06/22
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Robert Pluim, 2011/06/22
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/06/22
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight,
Ted Zlatanov <=
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/06/22
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, 2011/06/22
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/06/22
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Stefan Monnier, 2011/06/22
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, 2011/06/22
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen, 2011/06/22
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/06/22
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Eli Zaretskii, 2011/06/22
- Re: Committing new smtpmail.el later tonight, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/06/22
- Re: netrc field encryption in auth-source, Ted Zlatanov, 2011/06/30