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Re: random doesn't feel very random
From: |
Eli Zaretskii |
Subject: |
Re: random doesn't feel very random |
Date: |
Fri, 31 Aug 2012 12:41:26 +0300 |
> From: Stefan Monnier <address@hidden>
> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 00:48:47 -0400
> Cc: Achim Gratz <address@hidden>, address@hidden
>
> > It is a feature that, if you don't call (random t), `random' returns
> > a predictable sequence. That is good for debugging.
>
> I wonder how often this has been useful.
??? A pseudo-random sequence is always deterministic, that's what the
"pseudo" part is about. I'm sure you already know that.
> Since most/any package that uses `random' will want the sequence to
> be unpredictable
??? A pseudo-random sequence looks and feels as an unpredictable one.
Moreover, you cannot have a non-predictable sequence out of a PRNG at
all. I'm sure you already know that.
> many packages call (random t) at various times
Those packages have a bug that needs to be fixed.
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, (continued)
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Andreas Schwab, 2012/08/24
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Richard Stallman, 2012/08/25
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Leo, 2012/08/25
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Richard Stallman, 2012/08/26
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Achim Gratz, 2012/08/26
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Leo, 2012/08/26
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Stefan Monnier, 2012/08/26
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Simon Leinen, 2012/08/27
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Richard Stallman, 2012/08/26
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Stefan Monnier, 2012/08/27
- Re: random doesn't feel very random,
Eli Zaretskii <=
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Stefan Monnier, 2012/08/31
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, chad, 2012/08/31
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Eli Zaretskii, 2012/08/31
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Stefan Monnier, 2012/08/31
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Paul Eggert, 2012/08/31
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Leo, 2012/08/31
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Achim Gratz, 2012/08/27
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Eli Zaretskii, 2012/08/31
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Stefan Monnier, 2012/08/31
- Re: random doesn't feel very random, Eli Zaretskii, 2012/08/31