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Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/internationa
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Oleh Krehel |
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Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim |
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Tue, 01 Sep 2015 13:40:10 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) |
David Kastrup <address@hidden> writes:
> Has anything like that been proposed? I repeat the documentation help
> from the `quote' macro:
>
> quote is a special form in ‘C source code’.
>
> (quote ARG)
>
> Return the argument, without evaluating it. ‘(quote x)’ yields ‘x’.
> Warning: ‘quote’ does not construct its return value, but just returns
> the value that was pre-constructed by the Lisp reader (see info node
> ‘(elisp)Printed Representation’).
> This means that ’(a . b) is not identical to (cons ’a ’b): the former
> does not cons. Quoting should be reserved for constants that will
> never be modified by side-effects, unless you like self-modifying code.
> See the common pitfall in info node ‘(elisp)Rearrangement’ for an example
> of unexpected results when a quoted object is modified.
>
> It contains both quote marks as well as Lisp quote characters.
> Executing the given examples yields "void variable ’"&"Trailing garbage
> following expression" and "void variable ’a" respectively.
>
> Info does not have this problem because Texinfo markup marks code
> passages separately, and for those, ` and ' are not substituted.
>
> So this just can't work in DOC strings until we have decided on separate
> markup for either ` and ' or code in general.
This could be solved in a variety of ways while keeping to ASCII. For
instance, either "''" or "\'" could translate into "'" unconditionally.
I would prefer the way Markdown does it: `(cons 'a 'b)` translates into
<code>(cons 'a 'b)</code>. I've been using a similar style for org-mode,
only with different escape chars:
- =(cons 'a 'b)= to denote code
- ~C-a C-k~ to denote keyboard sequences
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, Paul Eggert, 2015/09/01
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, David Kastrup, 2015/09/01
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, Oleh Krehel, 2015/09/01
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, Andreas Schwab, 2015/09/01
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, David Kastrup, 2015/09/01
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim,
Oleh Krehel <=
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, Dmitry Gutov, 2015/09/01
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, David Kastrup, 2015/09/01
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, Dmitry Gutov, 2015/09/01
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, Oleh Krehel, 2015/09/03
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, Dmitry Gutov, 2015/09/03
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, Stefan Monnier, 2015/09/03
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, Dmitry Gutov, 2015/09/03
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, Paul Eggert, 2015/09/01
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, David Kastrup, 2015/09/01
Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ffb6ce 5/5: Quoting fixes in lisp/international and lisp/leim, Stefan Monnier, 2015/09/01