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Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF
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David Kastrup |
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Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files |
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Sun, 27 Sep 2015 07:29:20 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
Paul Eggert <address@hidden> writes:
> David Kastrup wrote:
>> The default is defined by the compiled language. For C, it is
>> essentially 8-bit bytes where the meaning-carrying subset is ASCII.
>
> That was true for C99 and earlier, but it stopped being true in C11,
> where the source-file encoding does matter and where UTF-8 is the only
> sane default nowadays.
"stopped being true in C11" suggests that the world moved on. Here is
the manual extract from the GCC delivered in the latest Ubuntu
distribution (the most commonly used GNU/Linux system):
A fourth version of the C standard, known as "C11", was published
in 2011 as ISO/IEC 9899:2011. GCC has substantially complete
support for this standard, enabled with '-std=c11' or
'-std=iso9899:2011'. (While in development, drafts of this standard
version were referred to as "C1X".)
It is not even accepted without using extra options. And we are not
talking anyway about the encoding Emacs is to choose for new files but
rather about the encoding for opening existing files.
How are you going to magically eradicate all pre-C11 files from Earth?
Wouldn't it be convenient to actually load them into an editor for doing
the conversion?
--
David Kastrup
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, (continued)
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, Paul Eggert, 2015/09/26
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/09/26
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, Paul Eggert, 2015/09/26
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, David Kastrup, 2015/09/26
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/09/26
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, Paul Eggert, 2015/09/26
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, Eli Zaretskii, 2015/09/26
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, Chad Brown, 2015/09/26
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, David Kastrup, 2015/09/26
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, Paul Eggert, 2015/09/27
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files,
David Kastrup <=
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, Paul Eggert, 2015/09/27
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, David Kastrup, 2015/09/27
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, Paul Eggert, 2015/09/27
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, Andreas Schwab, 2015/09/27
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, David Kastrup, 2015/09/27
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, Andreas Schwab, 2015/09/27
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, David Kastrup, 2015/09/27
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, Andreas Schwab, 2015/09/27
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, Richard Stallman, 2015/09/27
- Re: [Emacs-diffs] master db828f6: Don't rely on defaults in decoding UTF-8 encoded Lisp files, Paul Eggert, 2015/09/27