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Re: Emacs Lisp's future
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Marcin Borkowski |
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Re: Emacs Lisp's future |
Date: |
Tue, 11 Oct 2016 09:16:39 +0200 |
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On 2016-10-11, at 06:18, Clément Pit--Claudel <address@hidden> wrote:
> On 2016-10-11 00:06, Marcin Borkowski wrote:
>> BTW, someone (Raman?) on this thread said that namespaces save typing.
>> That's not exactly right; that goal is achieved with autocompletion (as
>> he already noticed). What namespaces really do is twofold:
>>
>> 1. Help avoid collisions, and
>>
>> 2. (last but not least!) save on reading.
>>
>> Long function names are really bad.
>
> I think nameless makes both of these a non-issue. You get "import x as y"
> using custom prefixes (such as fl: for font-lock), and for your own code
> there's no typing (C-- inserts the package prefix) and no wasted space.
>
> Bottom line: I don't see much use for proper namespaces :)
That's only true to some extent. Both names and nameless packages (even
though I really appreciate them) are really prosthetics; I'd have to
check it, but how do they behave with tools like xref-find-definitions,
edebug, lispy and others? I'm pretty sure that names won't cooperate
with them nicely (I vaguely remember trying, though I'm not sure), I'd
have to check nameless.
Best,
--
Marcin Borkowski
- Re: Emacs Lisp's future, (continued)
- Re: Emacs Lisp's future, Elias Mårtenson, 2016/10/11
- Re: Emacs Lisp's future, Tom Tromey, 2016/10/11
- Re: Emacs Lisp's future, Richard Stallman, 2016/10/13
- Re: Emacs Lisp's future, Tom Tromey, 2016/10/13
- Re: Emacs Lisp's future, Richard Stallman, 2016/10/16
- Re: Emacs Lisp's future, Georges Ko, 2016/10/10
- Re: Emacs Lisp's future, Clément Pit--Claudel, 2016/10/10
- Re: Emacs Lisp's future, Georges Ko, 2016/10/10
- Re: Emacs Lisp's future, Marcin Borkowski, 2016/10/11
- Re: Emacs Lisp's future, Clément Pit--Claudel, 2016/10/11
- Re: Emacs Lisp's future,
Marcin Borkowski <=
- Re: Emacs Lisp's future, Clément Pit--Claudel, 2016/10/11
- Re: Emacs Lisp's future, Elias Mårtenson, 2016/10/11
- Re: Emacs Lisp's future, Clément Pit--Claudel, 2016/10/11
- Re: Emacs Lisp's future, Elias Mårtenson, 2016/10/11
- Re: Emacs Lisp's future, Marcin Borkowski, 2016/10/11
- Re: Emacs Lisp's future, raman, 2016/10/10
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