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Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize)

From: Mark Oteiza
Subject: Re: Friendly discussion about (package-initialize)
Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2017 16:15:24 -0400
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.0.50 (gnu/linux)

Stefan Monnier <address@hidden> writes:

>> - subverts `package-load-list' settings
> I don't know what this problem is.

package-load-list controls which autoload files for installed packages
get loaded.  Setting it in init.el works until package.el clobbers
the init file, putting package-initialize first.

>> - breaks setting of package-archives that would normally happen before
>>   calling `package-initialize'
> How so?

Same as above, calling package-initialize before setting archives, one
won't see the correct archives.

This is even documented in (info "(emacs) Package Installation"), albeit
not thoroughly--only package-load-list is mentioned explicitly in this

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