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Re: Auto-installing packages?
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Phillip Lord |
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Re: Auto-installing packages? |
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Thu, 20 Sep 2018 17:58:20 +0100 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1.50 (gnu/linux) |
Richard Stallman <address@hidden> writes:
> > > That is a valid point, in the case of GNU ELPA.
> > >
> > > But would that facility be limited to GNU ELPA?
>
> > > Or would it also be used with other package archives
> > > that are not part of Emacs?
>
> You responded
>
> > Emacs already has the ability to do this, but it is up to the user to
> > choose to do this.
>
> That doesn't address the issue I am raising. It is a tangent.
>
> Emacs has the ability to do any computation at all, if a user programs
> it. The issue here is not what Emacs "has the ability to do", but
> what it offers/encourages/suggests/makes convenient.
>
> If we are going to add a convenient facility to load external
> packages, it should be for ELPA (which is more or less a part of
> Emacs), not for other package archives (which are NOT part of Emacs).
>
> In general, treating all package archives alike is something to avoid.
> It is a pitfall.
I don't think it's a tangent. Emacs out of the box already favours ELPA,
and does not enable other archives. The default for additional mechanism
for loading external packages would be at least as restrictive --
i.e. out of the box, Emacs would only use this additional mechanism for
ELPA.
I would assume that anything else we added would also be usable with
other package archives. So, the GNU distribution of Emacs might, for
example, not ship with org-mode, but auto-install and then autoload it
on first usage. The same facility could be used by, for example,
spacemacs to auto-install and then auto-load any of the packages that
spacemacs provides.
It would be possible to make the use of an auto-install functionality
work straight-forwardly only with ELPA, but I can't see why you would.
Phil
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