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Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary file
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Tomas Hlavaty |
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Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files) |
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Fri, 25 Dec 2020 15:44:55 +0100 |
On Fri 25 Dec 2020 at 14:19, Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com> wrote:
> The problem with documents in MS office is not text extraction; it is
> just xml nowadays anyway, the problem is countless VBA scripts that
> business and organisations run in Excell/Access/Word that just can't
> be translate to Libre. Libre has VB, but the underlaying objects are
> not there and lots of tools out there that people use can't be just
> automatically translated.
>
> I have worked in big organisation and did lots of automation for MS
> office and databases.
So what? I do not understand what are you trying to say.
I tried to get the point across that it is not all or nothing problem.
There are use-cases which bring lots of value and are achievable with
reasonable effort.
>> Dealing with office formats is not a pleasant experience so I am
>> skeptical that volunteers will devote so much time to the use-cases
>> with the highest complexity.
>
> What is not so pleasant? New formats (marked with x) at the end are
> all xml, so it is just dealing with xml, sinilar to odt. I see nothing
> hard there and it is not that I defend Microsoft, I just don't see
> what you are talking about. That is part that alternatives you mention
> do.
Just because something is a zip file with some xml files inside does not
make it "not hard", "just dealing with xml". It is complex to do
non-trivial stuff. If you do not see what I am talking about, try to
implement something non-trivial (for example merge many docx documents
into one). You'll understand why it is not a pleasant experience and
why I do not think anybody will do that in their free time.
>> there could be.
>
> You are correct about one thing: there could be free alternative.
> All that will probably change in next 20 ~ 30 years, but we are not
> there yet.
It is not clear to me about which use-case are you talking in this
prediction.
1) There are use-cases, for which there are solutions now, as I already
shown.
2) There are use-cases, for which solutions could be implemented with
reasonable effort.
3) There are use-cases, which will very likely never have an
alternative.
For 1) I did my best.
For 2) we'll see what I will do;-)
For 3) I wish you good luck!
- Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), (continued)
- Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), Jean Louis, 2020/12/27
- Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), Yuri Khan, 2020/12/25
- Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), Richard Stallman, 2020/12/26
- Sv: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), arthur miller, 2020/12/26
- Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), Yuri Khan, 2020/12/26
- Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), Tomas Hlavaty, 2020/12/26
- Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), Jean Louis, 2020/12/26
- Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), Richard Stallman, 2020/12/27
- Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), Tomas Hlavaty, 2020/12/25
- Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), Arthur Miller, 2020/12/25
- Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files),
Tomas Hlavaty <=
- Sv: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), arthur miller, 2020/12/25
- Re: Sv: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), Stefan Monnier, 2020/12/25
- Sv: Sv: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), arthur miller, 2020/12/26
- Re: Sv: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), Tomas Hlavaty, 2020/12/27
- Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), Jean Louis, 2020/12/25
- Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), Tomas Hlavaty, 2020/12/25
- Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), Jean Louis, 2020/12/26
- Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), Eric S Fraga, 2020/12/28
- Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), Tomas Hlavaty, 2020/12/28
- Re: Emacs as a word processor (ways to convert Word/RTF proprietary files), Eric S Fraga, 2020/12/28