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Re: [PATCH] lisp/bookmark.el: make bookmark-fontify nil by default


From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: [PATCH] lisp/bookmark.el: make bookmark-fontify nil by default
Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 17:15:27 +0300

> Feedback-ID: 791:353:null:purelymail
> Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 22:00:24 +1000
> From:  "Paul W. Rankin" via "Emacs development discussions." 
> <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
> 
> > On 18 May 2021, at 4:20 pm, Paul W. Rankin <pwr@bydasein.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Ugh. Not sure how this slipped into master but it is not a good/considerate 
> > idea to set default value of bookmark-fontify to t.
> > 
> > If there are no reasonable objections I'll push this later today.
> 
> To recap the bookmark-fontify saga the takeaways appear to be:
> 
> Everyone in the thread seems to get the default should be nil not t. The fix 
> has since been reverted. Whether this does get fixed now or after 28 (and the 
> ensuing cascade of befuddled people asking/complaining about the appearance 
> of an inexplicable error highlight thing) is left to the next brave soul.

I'm certain that we will make the necessary changes when this
discussion reaches its conclusion.

> It seems I hurt some people's feelings by pushing the fix without waiting for 
> their "okay". I am aware but I'd be lying if I said I cared about this. The 
> irony that pushing this feature out without caring about annoying anyone 
> else, and that this fix was to avoid that happening, seems quite lost.

Undoing someone's changes without hearing their opinion is very
unkind, and shouldn't have place in a friendly community, except in an
emergency (which this one isn't).  There was no reason to rush with
undoing the change; if the default value annoys so immensely, it is a
simple matter to turn it off on your machines, and then wait until the
discussion reaches some conclusion.

> But you don't need to take my word for it! Here's some guy named Neal 
> Stephenson saying the reason he uses Emacs is because it does not do this 
> kind of thing:
> https://youtu.be/0JDFd_BoN1k?t=2572

He must be talking about Emacs releases.  We don't promise that the
development version of Emacs will never annoy anyone, there could be
(hopefully, brief) times when it does.



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