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Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorth
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João Távora |
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Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master) |
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Tue, 28 Sep 2021 16:28:13 +0100 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) |
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:
> It shouldn't be very hard [IOW, I encourage some of the readers here to
> go out and do it] to refine/extend the `find-function-regexp-alist`
> mechanism so that `M-.` jumps directly to the actual `:constructor`
> thingy or to the actual field corresponding to an accessor.
Regexps.... Ugh. Shouldn't we invest in a proper macro-expanding and
source-tracking reader? I've recently some work for a Common Lisp
annotation-based stepper that correlates each evaluated form with a
source position. I built a working system and published a paper. Is
there interest in such a deeper Lisp introspection features for Emacs?
>>> Long names being "tedious" (quoting the new info manual) to read
>>> and write seems like an insufficient reason, IMHO.
> As a researcher in programming languages, I tend to take it for granted
> that "syntax doesn't matter", but in reality details of syntax have
> enormous impacts on how languages are used and perceived,
Yes, when you're transferring programs between two well-behaved robotic
entities, syntax doesn't matter. But when human's squishy matter is
interacting with them (and we do that a lot, unfortunately), it matters.
João "You think you have a problem, you use a regexp...." :-)
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- Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master), André A . Gomes, 2021/09/30
- Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master), Gregory Heytings, 2021/09/30
- Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master), João Távora, 2021/09/30
- Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master), Tomas Hlavaty, 2021/09/30
- Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master), Tomas Hlavaty, 2021/09/30
Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master), Eli Zaretskii, 2021/09/28
Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master), Alan Mackenzie, 2021/09/28
- Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master), Eli Zaretskii, 2021/09/28
- Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master), Alan Mackenzie, 2021/09/28
- Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master), Eli Zaretskii, 2021/09/28
- Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master), Phil Sainty, 2021/09/30
- Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master), Gregory Heytings, 2021/09/30
- Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master), Gregory Heytings, 2021/09/30
Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master), Tomas Hlavaty, 2021/09/30
Re: Do shorthands break basic tooling (tags, grep, etc)? (was Re: Shorthands have landed on master), João Távora, 2021/09/30