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Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA
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Yuan Fu |
Subject: |
Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA |
Date: |
Sun, 2 Jan 2022 09:26:01 -0800 |
> On Jan 2, 2022, at 7:42 AM, Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>> I didn't yet try the package, but IMNSHO it makes the most sense in
>>> core, and in that case it should also be started automatically for new
>>> users, or at least suggested to them upon first invocation.
>
> +1
>
>> I’m afraid it would be very hard for everyone to agree on the options
>> provided, the phrasing, etc, etc, if it is to be made official and
>> included in core. I don’t have the energy to fight for it. If someone
>> is feeling courageous, go for it; in the meantime, having it on ELPA
>> is better than having nothing in core.
>
> IMHO, if we can get your code in shape for core, we can discuss such
> details after it has been merged. For example, we could start out with
> a very minimal set, and comment out anything that is not trivially
> agreed upon.
>
> Putting it on GNU ELPA does not move us closer to where we need to be,
> IMHO, because it adds another set of complexities on top of the already
> existing ones with adding it to core.
I don’t have any problem of adding it to core. I’m just pessimistic about how
many people are incentivized to push for it and agree on things.
Putting it on ELPA doesn’t stop from working it into core, I think. I don’t
want to get into another 1000-thread debate about what is the “minimal set”.
Many of the stuff in setup-wizard.el are not easily agreed upon, but removing
them IMO decreases the usefulness of setup-wizard. For example, the “wizards’
choice” binding scheme, the option to turn off menu-bar, the recommendation of
ivy and company.
Yuan
- Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA, (continued)
- Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/01/07
- Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA, Yuan Fu, 2022/01/09
- Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA, Jean Louis, 2022/01/09
- RE: [External] : Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA, Drew Adams, 2022/01/10
- Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/01/10
- Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA, Jean Louis, 2022/01/10
- Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA, Richard Stallman, 2022/01/10
Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/01/02
- Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA, Yuan Fu, 2022/01/02
- Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA, Stefan Kangas, 2022/01/02
- Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA, Yuan Fu, 2022/01/02
- Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA, Po Lu, 2022/01/02
- Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA, Yuan Fu, 2022/01/02
Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA, Stefan Kangas, 2022/01/02
Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA, Joost Kremers, 2022/01/03
Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA, Eli Zaretskii, 2022/01/03
Re: Propose to add setup-wizard.el to ELPA, Po Lu, 2022/01/03