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Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term)
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Andrea Corallo |
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Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term) |
Date: |
Wed, 05 Oct 2022 16:28:58 +0000 |
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Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org> writes:
>
>> The naming went first to `inhibit-native-compilation', this was really
>> just sooo wrong in so many levels :/ So many as many knobs we have to
>> control and disable different parts of the native compiler. I can't
>> really think of one understanding all this machinery and then picking up
>> this name sorry, I can't.
>
> Naming is the most difficult thing in computing, after all.
>
> The doc string to the variable explained what it does just fine, so I
> think your understanding needs a check-up. (And I don't appreciated
> being talked to in this tone, in case you wondered.)
>
>>> 1) It allows testing without writing to $HOME. (This has nothing to
>>> do with --batch -- testing happens in interactive Emacsen, too.)
>>
>> The user request is for non interactive sessions AFAIU. And still I've
>> to understand exactly what the user wants to solve. Most importantly I
>> feel I'm not alone here.
>
> And I'm telling you that's not all that was requested for... the third
> time? I'm not sure I'm getting any further here by repeating myself, so
> I think I'll stop.
>
>>> 2) It allows people to run an AOT Emacs without triggering further
>>> compilation.
>>
>> Sorry as changeset I meant 5fec9182db + f97993ee66. I'm not against
>> e245c4f226.
>>
>>> If you have a suggestion for an alternative change that achieves these
>>> two things, I'm all ears. (But if your objection is "people shouldn't
>>> want those two things", I'm down to just two ears again.)
>>
>> Again 5fec9182db + f97993ee66 are IMO not useful / wrong, they were not
>> discussed and are just a step backward. The best change I can suggest
>> is to revert them now.
>
> You're just repeating that you're against it without proposing an
> alternative, which is not helpful, so I think we've come to the of the
> discussion on this point, too.
You asked for an ameliorative change, I gave you one, that is just to
revert it. If you don't like it I don't know what to do, I'll not
speculate on your psychology as you did with mine ;)
Best Regards
Andrea
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), (continued)
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2022/10/05
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Andrea Corallo, 2022/10/05
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2022/10/05
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Andrea Corallo, 2022/10/05
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2022/10/05
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Andrea Corallo, 2022/10/05
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2022/10/05
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Eli Zaretskii, 2022/10/06
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Andrea Corallo, 2022/10/05
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2022/10/05
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term),
Andrea Corallo <=
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Eli Zaretskii, 2022/10/05
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Po Lu, 2022/10/05
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2022/10/05
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Eli Zaretskii, 2022/10/06
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Eli Zaretskii, 2022/10/06
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Rob Browning, 2022/10/14
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Stefan Monnier, 2022/10/14
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Eli Zaretskii, 2022/10/14
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Rob Browning, 2022/10/14
- Re: Suppressing native compilation (short and long term), Stefan Monnier, 2022/10/14