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Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: ekg

From: Andrew Hyatt
Subject: Re: [NonGNU ELPA] New package: ekg
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2023 20:24:02 -0500

On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 3:03 AM Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> wrote:
* Andrew Hyatt <ahyatt@gmail.com> [2023-01-03 01:29]:
> I've created a new package called ekg, which can be found at
> https://github.com/ahyatt/ekg.  I'd like to add it to NonGNU ELPA.

Great to see new package.

My opinions are not related to recording it to NonGNU ELPA.

Related to design, and being heavy user of 1736 different tags, it is
alright to search within titles, but that only titles are tags is not
quite in place. That it isn't unique to ekg, does not make it
better. Maybe there is no need to talk about tags in that place.

I search by title, and by tags, or by both, and by other complexities.

A document may be named "Certificate of Good Standing" and can have
tag "todo" or tag "Armenia", or "free" or anything that is not
directly related to title.

I leave that to you. However, I see that the idea comes from the
following problem you encountered:

> The advantage of this method is that it solves something that has
> bothered me for a while about the recent suite of tools like org-roam:
> backlinks are non-symmetrical. If you enter a note in your org-roam
> daily about emacs, and link it to the emacs note, then when you go to
> the emacs note, you have to explicitly enable the backlinks buffer to
> see the daily entry where you first entered it. Systems such as Logseq
> and the original Roam have backlinks alongside normal content, but
> this doesn’t seem possible in emacs, where a buffer of a file is
> expected show the file, and tricks with overlays can’t solve the
> issue

Your paragraph has explained something, I get only vague clue about
the main point.

Can you provide screenshot?

I've attached a screenshot of ekg, showing a document about "chicago style pizza" and a reference to it.  They both have the same tags: the date they were created on, and "chicago style pizza".  If I want a note to show up when I look at the "chicago style pizza" tag, then I tag it with that tag, not link it.
This is opposed to the other way of doing it, where you have to use another buffer.  I'm including a screenshot of how org-roam does it.  But that's different also to how Logseq does it, which is to have the backlinks inline.  I'm attaching a third screenshot to show you what I mean there, see the "Unlinked references" at the bottom.

Is your main point to show the buffer with backlinks at all times?

My main point is that it shouldn't be in a separate buffer.  I want it inline.  It doesn't work to have it inline in the note itself, but it does work if you have a buffer that lists all notes with the tag, and instead of linking references to get the backlinks, you just tag things the same way.  Hope this helps.

Or to record the backlinks in first place?

> One of the notable design choices is that this is built on top of my triples
> package (which has been added to GNU ELPA), and so everything, notes, tags,
> URLs, and all, is stored in a sqlite database.

That is good, I may test it and see how it works and if it is scalable.


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