Re: Lisp files that load cl-lib in problematical ways

[Emanuel Berg]

Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>>>> 226 files, or 14%, use cl-lib at run time.
>>>
>>> These cases may be more or less problematical, but not
>>> necessarily equally so.
>>>
>>> Which of those files are usually loaded when you start
>>> Emacs with no arguments? Those we should certainly fix.
>> 
>> I don't know, but at least one since you get the cl-lib
>> stuff even at 'emacs -Q'.
>
> That is not true, since in "emacs -Q" I get this:
>
>   (featurep 'cl-lib) => nil
>
> both in GUI and TTY (i.e. -nw) sessions.
>
> So if cl-lib is loaded at startup, Emacs does that because
> of some user customizations, not by default.

It is the debugger. Try this two times:

  (cl-loop for i from 0 to 10 do (+ 1 1))

The first time `cl-loop' isn't loaded, the second time it is.

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