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Re: Lisp files that load cl-lib in problematical ways

From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: Lisp files that load cl-lib in problematical ways
Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 22:00:16 +0300

> Date: Sat, 21 Oct 2023 17:53:31 +0000
> Cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
> Just as a matter of interest, what loads cl-lib in my .emacs is
> desktop.el.  It does this for a single call to cl-list* which could be
> seen as rather contrived.
> So any Emacs session loading desktop will also be loading cl-lib; that's
> virtually any Emacs session in which real work will be getting done, I
> think.
> It would be fairly easy to remove cl-lib from desktop.el.  Or, on the
> other hand, we could just as well preload cl-lib, and save an
> unmeasurable amount of loading time at each Emacs startup.

No, we will not preload cl-lib.  But if some package loads cl-lib for
a small number of functions that can be easily replaced with
non-cl-lib functions, patches to make such packages leaner and meaner
will be welcome.

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