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Re: Lisp files that load cl-lib in problematical ways

From: Eli Zaretskii
Subject: Re: Lisp files that load cl-lib in problematical ways
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 05:31:15 +0300

> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2023 22:08:55 -0400
>   > But as we have seen in practice it _is_ loaded, be it by the
>   > debugger, by native compilation, or any other package or piece
>   > of Elisp that uses it,
> Let's fix the debugger, and native compilation, not to load cl-lib.

That's not practical.  I don't see any reason to waste our resources
on doing that.

> It's not so bad if you load a specialized package that serves your code
> and it uses cl-lib.  But the debugger can be loaded to debug anything,
> even programs you have nothing to do with.  It's rude for the debugger
> to load cl-lib.

The debugger uses cl-lib for good reasons.

> Likewise for native compilation.  You might recompile anything.

Likewise here.

I don't see a problem in these using cl-lib, and don't think we should
be bothered about that.

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