Re: Lisp files that load cl-lib in problematical ways

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 12:54:33 +0000
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
> 
> Even calling M-: (backtrace) causes cl-lib to get loaded.

That's because we use cl-print to display the backtrace.  That change
was done intentionally and for good reasons.  So that is not a
"problem" that needs to be "fixed", from where I stand.

> It seems that while emacs -Q doesn't itself load cl-lib, there is now
> very little, if anything, one can do in Emacs which doesn't load this
> library.  I find this regrettable, but can't see there's much to be done
> about it.

Neither should we do anything about it (except fixing places where
this is done unintentionally, if there are such places).