Re: Lisp files that load cl-lib in problematical ways

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2023 14:48:29 +0000
> From: Gregory Heytings <gregory@heytings.org>
> cc: rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> 
> >> Pretty much everything loads cl-lib nowadays, for example:
> >
> > That's not the issue, from my POV.  the issue is whether all these 
> > places load cl-lib for good reasons.  If not, they shouldn't.
> >
> > Are any of these commands loading cl-lib without a good reason?
> >
> 
> I don't know.  I was only pointing out that the debugger is just one of 
> the many cases, and not the most likely one, in which cl-lib is loaded. 
> I was also hinting that it would perhaps make sense to preload cl-lib, 
> given that it's practically impossible to use Emacs without loading 
> cl-lib.

It is also "practically impossible" to use Emacs without loading some
other packages, like help-fns, for example.  But we still don't (and
shouldn't) preload them.

Preloading unnecessary stuff is a slippery slope that once we start
there's no way of knowing where we end.  So let's not.