Re: What's missing in ELisp that makes, people want to use cl-lib?

[Gerd Möllmann]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
>> Cc: paaguti@gmail.com,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2023 16:30:47 +0100
>> 
>> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> 
>> >> From: Gerd Möllmann <gerd.moellmann@gmail.com>
>> >> Cc: paaguti@gmail.com,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> >> Date: Fri, 03 Nov 2023 16:08:09 +0100
>> >> 
>> >> What I'm missing is a positive reason why to use it. I don't see one.
>> >
>> > It's preloaded.  I think this is a good reason for using it.
>> 
>> Sparing 10^-7 seconds, when cl-lib is already loaded anyway?
>
> These are not the only situations in Emacs.  For example, in preloaded
> code.
>
>> > The fact
>> > that it's preloaded should also say something about how the Emacs
>> > maintainers see seq.el and its future.
>> 
>> I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but that's kind of a weak
>> argument. And an entirely non-technical one.
>
> When we decided to preload it, the reasons were technical.  So I don't
> see why the above is not a technical argument.

I'm sorry, but I think this leads nowhere.