Re: [Orgmode] Definition of "unscheduled" task

[Carsten Dominik]

On Oct 15, 2007, at 21:08, Wanrong Lin wrote:

> Sounds like my argument did not convince you. :-)

No, you misunderstand.  I do see why you might want to mark
appointments TODO (even if I would not do it).  But
"scheduled" in the context of Org has to do with *planning*.
You *plan* to work on this item that day, but it is not ab
absolute fix like a dentist appointment.  So I think it
is  wrong to turn these off with a variable that contains the
word "scheduled" in the name.

- Carsten

> But a new variable works for me. I really appreciate the extra effort 
> you take.
>
> Wanrong
>
> Carsten Dominik wrote:
> > Well,
> >
> > I am not about the change the meaning of "scheduled", but I can give 
> > you a new
> > variable `org-agenda-todo-ignore-with-date'.  How about that?
> >
> > - Carsten
> >
> > On Oct 14, 2007, at 17:45, Wanrong Lin wrote:
> >
> > > That's certainly an option. But usually I like to mark any 
> > > "actionable" items with "TODO", while using non-TODO entries to 
> > > record information, or to group TODOs into logical groups. Like 
> > > this:
> > >
> > > * Dental
> > > *** TODO See Dr. Xyz for cleaning
> > >   <2007-11-29 Thu 09:00>
> > > * Medical
> > > *** TODO See Dr. Abc for routine exam
> > > * Useful Websites
> > >
> > > Conceptually, I think it is  cleaner that way (if the entry 
> > > indicates some action, have a "TODO" keyword. How that action is 
> > > scheduled is a separate issue.). Physiologically, If I know in my 
> > > org system certain entries need action but don't have a TODO 
> > > keyword, my trust of the system will decrease since there are many 
> > > functions in org-mode that operates on TODO entries only (or better 
> > > so). Also, with a TODO keyword, I can change the state of it (I can 
> > > cancel it, I can mark it done and etc.). Further, sometimes you just 
> > > want to create a TODO entry like "See Dr. Abc", and later make it an 
> > > appointment by adding a time stamp. It seems awkward to me that I 
> > > need to remove the "TODO" keyword once I have that item scheduled as 
> > > an appointment.
> > >
> > > In short, I think we should mark appointments as "TODO" entries and 
> > > have appointments removed from the TODO item list if 
> > > "ignore-scheduled" is turned on.
> > >
> > > Wanrong
> > >
> > > Carsten Dominik wrote:
> > > > On Oct 14, 2007, at 5:35, Wanrong Lin wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am trying to follow GTD's principle that tasks should be 
> > > > > reviewed regularly. So I first turn on 
> > > > > "org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled", and do a "List of all TODO 
> > > > > entries, and then review all tasks in the list. However, I found 
> > > > > that tasks with plain active time stamps ("appointment tasks") are 
> > > > > also listed. Should we exclude them when 
> > > > > org-agenda-todo-ignore-scheduled is set to "t"?
> > > >
> > > > Wouldn't it be better to not mark appointments TODO?
> > > >
> > > > - Carsten
> > >
> > >
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Carsten Dominik
Sterrenkundig Instituut "Anton Pannekoek"
Universiteit van Amsterdam
Kruislaan 403
NL-1098SJ Amsterdam
phone: +31 20 525 7477