Re: [Orgmode] FR: toggling timestamps active/inactive

[Carsten Dominik]

On Oct 17, 2007, at 11:08, Rick Moynihan wrote:

> Carsten Dominik wrote:
> > On Oct 16, 2007, at 18:22, Adam Spiers wrote:
> > > Rick Moynihan (address@hidden) wrote:
> > > > Adam Spiers wrote:
> > > > This seems like a good idea.  Another related one occurred to me 
> > > > today
> > > > (if it's necessary) which is toggling between the two list 
> > > > indicators.
> > > >
> > > > e.g.
> > > >
> > > > - foo
> > > > - bar
> > > >   - baz |<-- Point
> > This cammand does exist, it is `C-c -'.
>
> Excellent.  I'd forgotten there were so many list types/styles though, 
> it seems that this might be better on some kind of cycle (like the 
> priority cookies).  I don't know what key binding you could use 
> though.  Could holding CTRL and using the arrows up/down work?

I guess S-left/right would be quite natural for this.  OK.

> > When you are in a list, M-RET makes the next list item, C-u M-RET 
> > makes
> > the next section, and C-RET does the same - even if for different 
> > reasons.
> > In what sense does M-RET not DWYM?
>
> Speaking for myself I think the issue is that M-RET is a common habit 
> for creating a series of either list-items or outlines.  The problem 
> arises when you are under an outline and press M-RET it creates a new 
> outline, when you really wanted to start a list.  Hence having a 
> convenient toggle here to turn an outline to a list/vice-versa might 
> be handy.  Perhaps the C-c - binding (or perhaps a cyclical one) could 
> be used to include the current outline level in the cycle.  This 
> binding would then also obviously be applicable on outlines, allowing 
> them to be converted from outline to list.

I like `C-c -' to convert from a heading to a list item.  Very nice. 
Thanks.
I don't really think we need the other way round though, you can use
C-u M-RET or C-RET to directly get a heading from within a list.

- Carsten