[Orgmode] Re: make error when making org fro git

[Carsten Dominik]

On Apr 12, 2008, at 6:14 PM, Rainer Stengele wrote:

> yes, that made it work.
> I did not choose to use emacs 21 - it is debian 4 default version.
>
> Actually I misused my debain system to try to get a "make" for my
> windows xp where I cannot get anything to work natively from git.
> Doing a "make autoloads" I try to use the lisp directory under  
> windows.
> Hope that will work.

That should work.

> With the old org "system" I could simply use the lisp files as given
> but with the new structure I have to create the org-install.el file  
> which is not working under windows.

Well, this is not fully correct.

First of all, by the "old" system, I guess you mean the distribution  
files in the form of zip or tar archives?  These will still contain  
the org-install.el file and in this way this is not changed at all  
from the old system.  The git repo is the bleeding edge development  
version.  For technical reasons I cannot distribute a derived file  
like org-install.el with this repository.  And to fully use the git  
repo you will indeed need a system that can run a few basic  
development tools, like make - not asking too much in my opinion.

We have not had a release now for a while because the splitting  
operation is a major undertaking.  Once that is done, I will have more  
regular releases again, and then you can use the release files to stay  
close to the development version.

Furthermore, I do have a plan B for using the git repo, and that is  
simply doing (require 'org) instead of (require org-install).  This is  
not the preferred method because it does load the rather large Org  
system into Emacs each time you start emacs.  The preferred method is  
to use (require 'org-install) for a distribution, and *nothing* when  
Org is distributed with Emacs, because there it is fully autoloaded.

However, there are enough people who have never read the installation  
instructions close enough to know that in a downloaed version (require  
org-install) is the correct method to activate Org.  Also,  
unfortunately, the excellent tutorial by David O'Toole, for many  
people the entry gate into Org, explains to use (require 'org).   
Therefore I am trying to set things up in a way that also this will  
work.  If it does not, you can report this as a bug and I will fix it.

- Carsten