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Re: [Orgmode] Bug in org-time-stamp?


From: Carsten Dominik
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Bug in org-time-stamp?
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2008 07:55:41 +0200

Hi Bostjanv,


first of all, I do not understand why you seem to think it matters if the mouse is inside or outside the time stamp when `C-c .' is called. I believe it does not matter at all.

On Aug 31, 2008, at 3:56 AM, address@hidden wrote:

Section 8.2 (node: Creating timestamps) of the info manual contains the
following description:

`C-c .'
    Prompt for a date and insert a corresponding time stamp.  When the
    cursor is at a previously used time stamp, it is updated to NOW.
    When this command is used twice in succession, a time range is
    inserted.

In my opinion, the second sentence does not correspond to the actual
operation. To see this, one can perform a test on a single-line org file,
for example:

* TODO <2008-08-28 Thu> test todo item

We encounter (at least) the following types of behavior:

(1) point is within the timestamp, mouse cursor is either inside or outside (if inside, do not click). In that case entering `C-c .' will result in a timestamp update query, and hitting RETURN will produce no change in
   the timestamp.

This is correct, and it is a bug in the documentation. The documentation shows how this function behaved a long time ago, but since then we decided that the current value of the timestamp should be the default instead as this application seems to be more common. This allows you, for example, to use this command to quickly change or add the time component of a stamp by typing 15:33 or so.

If you want a shortcut to shift the time stamp to today, use "+0" at the prompt.

Thank you for the report, I have updated the documentation to reflect the real behavior.

- Carsten


(2) point is outside the timestamp, mouse cursor inside. In that case the `C-c .' command and RETURN will result in an updated timestamp at the
   point position while the original timestamp remains unchanged.
(3) point is within the timestamp. If after `C-c .' and the timestamp query one clicks on a date in the calendar, then the original timestamp will
   be changed to the selected date.

On examining the first two cases one concludes that the origin of the problem is quite simple: In Case (1) the default answer to the update query is the ORIGINAL VALUE OF TIMESTAMP while in Case (2) it is NOW. In my opinion it
should be NOW in both cases. Case (3) does not require comment as the
corresponding behavior is expected.

Additionally, if the previously suggested change be accepted, I propose that
the above description in the info manual be changed to the following:

`C-c .'
    Prompt for a date and insert a corresponding time stamp.  When the
point or mouse cursor is at a previously used time stamp, the prompt
    requests an updated value, and the latter is inserted at point
    (default is NOW). When this command is used twice in succession, a
    time range is inserted.

Regards,
bostjanv
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