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Re: [Orgmode] org-install.el in Emacs probably should be removed


From: Carsten Dominik
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] org-install.el in Emacs probably should be removed
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2009 21:03:31 +0100


On Feb 15, 2009, at 8:50 AM, Leo wrote:

Hi Carsten,

I just notice there is a dummy file in emacs/lisp/org. The use of this
file hides problems away for example if users install org to a dir that
is overshadowed by the lisp/org in emacs (this happen quite often to
newbies too). Two files with the same name but different content also
confuse other users.

I think for users using both standalone and included org versions, the
cleaner and better way is to use one of the following

 (load "org-install" t) or (require 'org-install nil t)

in their own .emacs files if they want to avoid error (we can put this
in the documentation). But I guess some will prefer emacs to throw an
error when that org-install that does autoloads is missing.

Pointing out the install procedure is only for installing standalone org
package is also sufficient.

This is what I have done extensively in the manual, but this has not
kept people from doing (require 'org) in .emacs.

I have been fighting hard to get people to use (require 'org-install),
so I did not want to punish them when they move to Emacs 23 and want
to use the Emacs version.  Admittedly, this is not very likely.

Also, I do want to keep the option that org-install will do more than
just install autoloads.

So while I don't have strong feelings about removing org-install
from Emacs again, I cannot really see the point either.

- Carsten





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