Re: [Orgmode] Keeping a wiki with org-mode

[Dan Davison]

Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <address@hidden> writes:

> Thank you all for the replies,
>
> What I was suggesting is something like what WikiDPad does, a local
> wiki-like KB. WikiDPad exposes a very agile workflow, where CameCased
> words get automatically identified as wiki words and it automatically
> create files in the filesystem with the name of the wikiword.

Hi Marcelo,

I just did a search of the mailing list for 'CamelCase' (search
available on the org home page) and it shows that what support there was
for CamelCase-style links has always been unenthusiastic and was
eventually removed from the core. I think people are happy with the
current syntax for links, and as Sebastian and Eric have shown, we
already have convenient commands for e.g. creating the links, and
creating content in the file being linked to. However, as Carsten points
out in one of those threads, that's not to say someone couldn't add it
as a contributed package.

One of the posts thrown up by that search is by Taru Karttunen, 

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/13050

showing a line of perl that can help with converting existing camel case
links to org style. (For most normal people I imagine that it also
provides a beneficial exercise in perl regexps.)

Dan




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> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Sebastian Rose<address@hidden> wrote:
>> Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <address@hidden> writes:
>>> Hmm, I thought Worg was an approach on using org (in a distributed
>>> manner, with the goal of contributing to the org-mode project itself)
>>> instead of an extension to provide wiki-enhancements to org. Or am I
>>> wrong?
>>
>>
>> Worg is loosely realated to orgmode.org. We link back and forth, but
>> stuff committed to Worg will always show up below orgmode.org/worg/.
>>
>> It's not a wiki though. We push to a common repo, and that repo is
>> pulled (I think once an hour) and then exported on (or to??) the server
>> by emacs. That's how the site is kept up to date.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Russell Adams<address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>> I wonder what is the best way to implement a wiki with org? I know you
>>>>> can hyperlink to anything, but what I was thinking was something
>>>>> automatic, like what WikiDPad does or Tomboy -- like having wikiwords
>>>>> (CamelCase) automatically linked as you type to a filename in the
>>>>> system (a specific directory you specify for the wiki). If it is not
>>>>> possible, it could be a nice addition for a future org version.
>>
>>
>> There are no CamelCase links in Org-mode for a reason. But there is
>> automatic link and page creation. I have no problem with this syntax
>> here:
>>
>>   [[file:../relative/path.org][Look here]]
>>
>>   http://orgmode.org/worg
>>   file:./file.png
>>   file:somefile.org
>>
>>
>> You can create the page simply by clicking on the (file) link or
>> pressing `C-c C-o' while on it.
>>
>> You go back to the link with `C-x &' later on.
>>
>>
>>
>> And, automatic link creation can be done the other way round in
>> Org-mode:
>>
>> If you visit an interesting place (a web page, email, man page...) you
>> store a link to that location, whenever you either `remember' something,
>> or through `C-c L', or click your org-remember bookmark, org-store-link
>> bookmark, org-open-source bookmark....
>>
>> In the `C-c L' case you may insert the link later on by pressing `C-c
>> C-l'. In case you clicked a `store-link' bookmark, simple yanking is
>> enough.
>>
>> Hm - `C-c L' and remember are even more usefull. For emacs users _very_
>> usefull, since you may store usefull links to a place _inside_ a source
>> file to a file _inside_ a certain projects documentation/todo-file.
>>
>>
>>
>> But back to the wiki thing: why not use a WIKI when you need one ????
>>
>>
>> Org-mode is ready to generate online content, yes, but online content is
>> not ready to cope with full fledged org files (should be feasable, but
>> no one did it).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>>   Sebastian
>>
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