Re: [Orgmode] Re: Columns with LaTeX beamer export

[Carsten Dominik]

On Jul 7, 2010, at 8:52 AM, Tassilo Horn wrote:

> On Tuesday 06 July 2010 22:47:35 Eric S Fraga wrote:
>
> Hi Eric,
>
> > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> > > * My 2 Column Frame
> > >  :PROPERTIES:
> > >  :BEAMER_env: columns
> > >  :BEAMER_col: 0.5 0.5
> > >  :END:
> > >
> > >  - left col text
> > >  - more left col text
> > >
> > >  - right col text
> > >  - more right col text
> > > --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
> >
> > I'm sorry Tassilo but I do not understand your point.  Lists are not
> > part of an outline structure so there is only one outline component  
> > in
> > this example.
>
> Yes, that's exactly the point I don't understand in the paragraph
>
>  "Columns *without* additional outline structure"
>
> in the org-tutorials/org-beamer.org file in Worg.  This headline  
> implies
> (to me) that I can have a slide with many columns but no outline
> structure, except the headline for the frame itself.
>
> It states, that adding the :BEAMER_env: columns property to a slide
> heading will open a new columns and a column environment, and the  
> end of
> the slide will close all open environments.  But it doesn't tell me  
> how
> to close a column and start a new one without adding additional  
> outline
> structure.
>
> So that paragraph should be made a bit clearer and include an example.
> Maybe you can only have a columns environment with only one single
> column, if you don't add an extra outline structure?  Would that make
> sense?  Or maybe the wording of the headline is only misleading, and  
> the
> author had another intention than what I am reading.  Well, I don't
> know...

Hi Tassilo,

the only way to understand this paragraph is historical.

In the early days of BEAMER export, Eric Fraga invented a way to make  
columns
using an additional level of outline structure, just for making the  
columns.

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/19895/focus=19895

This worked, but made it difficult to export this file in
any other way, because of the extra structure.  This was overcome
with the BEAMER_col property, and this is what this paragraph
and the phrase "without additional structure" is referring to.

The "tutorial" I wrote on worg is out of date and bad, maybe we should  
remove it?
Does someone (Eric Fraga?) have time to check if there is anything  
interesting
in there that is is still true and not covered by the manual or by  
Eric's
tutorial?  If not, we should remove this outdated document.

If it adds something, maybe we can move that information?

If that is done, maybe we should remove this document.

Thanks

- Carsten

> Bye,
> Tassilo
>
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- Carsten