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[Orgmode] Re: [ANN] List improvement v.2


From: Carsten Dominik
Subject: [Orgmode] Re: [ANN] List improvement v.2
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2010 09:17:18 +0200

Hi Alex,

On Aug 15, 2010, at 10:52 PM, Glauber Alex Dias Prado wrote:

Carsten Dominik <address@hidden> writes:

On Aug 15, 2010, at 10:45 AM, Glauber Alex Dias Prado wrote:

Carsten Dominik <address@hidden> writes:

Hi Nicolas,

I have finally started to look at your changes to the list
implementation.
Lots of it is very good! I like for example that TAB indentation now
works
a lot better.

Here are a few problems I noted so far:

1 Error when pressing M-RET in second line after list
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

- Example item1
- Exmaple item2

With cursor position at "@", M-RET throws an error

2 Incompatibility 1
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
- Example 1
- Ex 2

This used to be outside of the list. The HTML exporter still treats
it as being outside of the list.  The LaTeX exporter treats it as
part of the last item.  If I add a second empty line, then both
exporters handle it well.

So this breaks with documented properties of the lists.  I guess
this is unavoidable because this is just how the new list definition
works.  But it will break existing documents when exported to LaTeX

3 Text between two sublists
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

- Ex1
- Ex2
  - Ex2a
  - Ex2b
  Some text between two sublists
  - A new list starts

This always was an inconsistency between HTML and LaTeX export, and
it
still is now. There seems to be no way now to do what I intend here,
putting some text between two lists.

preferably not only for lists, something like:

* some stuff
quick intro
** nest 1
 stuff about nest1
now what i dont think is possible and dont even know if it is usually
done on latex something that belongs to some stuff and is in between
nest 1 and 2, i find it usefull for commenting on nests(thats why
i miss it) and looks like it is the same thing you are wishing for
lists?
My use case for this is mostly note-taking.
** nest 2
 stuff about nest2

could be also usefull, if it makes sense, btw the lists are taking
shape :).

This has been discussed here a million times and it is not going to
happen.

- Carsten

Sorry i cant catchup on everything. I was thinking here could this be
done as footnotes on org headings? the look certainly wouldnt be the
same but perhaps the effect would, am gonna try it later, never played
with footnotes export.

I am not sure if I understand what you are describing here, maybe you can make a detailed example of what you have in mind.

- Carsten




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