Re: [Orgmode] Re: Org-mode screencasts

[Stefan Vollmar]

Dear Richard,

great job: great voice and an excellent way to get started! - 

ScreenFlow is probably the best (commercial) choice on the Mac, we also used it 
for Carsten's presentation at our institute. - One thing about showing the 
keystrokes: we prefer to use Aquamacs on the Mac (not least because it works 
out-of-the-box with a German keyboard and the usual Mac shortcuts), here "Meta" 
usually is the Alt key, another argument for not showing the Mac-specific 
"Cmd"-key icon.

We now use Org-mode to create personal pages for staff members of our 
institute, unfortunately, some parts of the documentation still need an English 
version: http://www.nf.mpg.de/cv-howto/cv-en.html. This example even implements 
hCard markup, http://www.nf.mpg.de/cv-howto/ex3-en.html (this was triggered by 
a suggestion from Shelagh Manton on this list). Your screencast has given me 
some ideas on how to present something on HTML generation with Org-mode as a 
screencast - maybe we can collaborate on this?

Warm regards,
 Stefan

On 24.09.2010, at 05:34, Richard Moreland wrote:

> Erik, thanks for the reminder about folding.  I had it in my script and 
> must've lost it in one of the edits.  I do prefer making these on the Mac.  
> It makes piecing them together much easier.  Recordmydesktop on Linux will do 
> single takes fine, but stitching it together in the end may be a chore.  
> Maybe you guys are good enough to do it all in one take though :)
> 
> John, you raise good points about what we can expect of the viewer.  I'm open 
> to suggestions, in fact maybe a 'Just enough Emacs for Org-mode' intro could 
> help newcomers to Emacs who are here just for Org-mode (like I was a year 
> ago).  Some of these issues could also be addressed on the episode's webpage, 
> which would link to relevant docs and info.
> 
> As far as some of the missing keystrokes, I was trying to find a balance 
> between showing every keystroke (and risk confusing the user), or just show 
> only the keys with modifiers (my 2 options in the tool, unfortunately).
> 
> I've updated the screencast (same URL) to contain a small bit about folding.
> 
> Thanks for the comments, I hope we can refine this and make a plan for more 
> as well.
> 
> -Richard
> 
> On Sep 23, 2010, at 11:09 PM, John Hendy wrote:
> 
>> Wow, Richard. That was sweet. You even have a pleasing "screencaster's 
>> voice."
>> 
>> My only thought was along the lines of what one should assume about org-mode 
>> viewers. Familiarity with emacs? No knowledge of emacs? I only got into 
>> emacs because I found org-mode, so my only thought there is that I might not 
>> even have known what "meta" was... I can't recall, but did you clarify meta 
>> = alt on Win/Linux and Command on Mac?
>> 
>> Stuff like that might be helpful. Obviously these won't all be done on a Mac 
>> and some unfamiliar with it might wonder what the Command and carat symbols 
>> are on their own keyboards?
>> 
>> As Erik said -- folding and perhaps adjusting in and out (meta + 
>> left/right). Also, it seems that only the meta or control functions show up 
>> as keystrokes. For example, I thought you said "M-n s" and "M-n w" to narrow 
>> on the tree and then widen the view but I only ever saw one part of that 
>> flash on the screen.
>> 
>> Great, great job. Loved it and think this is exactly what Org could use. I 
>> have a co-worker who just got emacs and org-mode up on his computer and 
>> would love to have something this simple and clear-cut.
>> 
>> 
>> Great work, again.
>> John
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Erik Iverson <address@hidden> wrote:
>> On 09/23/2010 07:45 PM, Richard Moreland wrote:
>> I jumped the gun a bit and decided to put together a video showing the very 
>> basics.  It seems overly simple when I re-watch it, but I think it is 
>> helpful for those who are unsure how to get started with the basics of 
>> Org-mode.
>> 
>> http://ncogni.to/org-screencasts/1-basics/
>> 
>> Feedback is welcome, these were the least exciting topics to cover, but I 
>> wasn't sure how to really wow new users without overwhelming them.  I 
>> figured that taking it step by step with short, clear episodes covering 
>> special topics would be a good start.
>> 
>> 
>> Really nice, agree that the intro is the least exciting.
>> 
>> But even starting with agendas in the next one, the more interesting things
>> can be shown.
>> 
>> Great job!
>> 
>> So with the software you use, you can go and insert/delete/edit voice into 
>> the
>> presentation once it's complete, or if you want to change the wording in one
>> part, do you have to record the whole thing over again?  I assume you can 
>> change
>> it, but don't know if the Linux tool has that capability.
>> 
>> 
>> -Richard
>> 
>> On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Charles Cave wrote:
>> 
>> Richard Moreland<rlm<at>  ncogni.to>  writes:
>> I think it would be helpful to create a series of screencasts to
>> demonstrate Org-mode.
>> 
>> Great idea!  I would he happy to record a couple of screencasts
>> based on tutorials I have written. Currently I am preparing
>> a tutorial on date trees and capturing notes to a journal.
>> 
>> I am a Windows user and a screencast tool I use is
>> http://www.screenr.com - from Articulate.
>> This allows screencasts up to 5 minutes to be recorded
>> then hosted on their website.
>> 
>> Charles
>> 
>> 
>> 
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